Al-O-Meter
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Yes, the Russians are leaking information. Those supposed plans list 90,000 Ukrainian KIA as of 5 weeks ago and only 15,000 Russian KIA. The documents are fakes.
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Bucknutz
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All the documents that are spreading on Twitter are fakes?
View: https://twitter.com/skynewsaust/status/1644151993114714113?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ
Interesting. Do you have any links to support this, that I can check out?
Lots of documents are out there right now:
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Al-O-Meter
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There are a ton of outlets reporting they are fake.
‘Secret’ US and Nato war plans are fake, says Ukraine
‘(Russia’s) intelligence services have degenerated to the point where they can only rehabilitate themselves with fake information,’ Ukraine’s Mykhailo Podolyak tweeted.
www.scmp.com
Leaked Ukraine counteroffensive plans may have been Putin ploy, says expert
The Pentagon says it's "reviewing" the reports of leaked military documents concerning Ukraine's planned counteroffensive.
www.newsweek.com
Leaked "counteroffensive plan" is fake and part of Russian information campaign – Defence Intelligence
Andrii Yusov, a representative of the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine, has said that the so-called "classified military documents" about the plans of the Armed Forces of Ukraine leaked to the network are forgery and a special operation of the Russian secret services.
Ukraine war latest: Kyiv dismisses classified war papers leaked online as 'fake'
Key developments on April 7: * Ukraine's intelligence dismisses classified war documents leaked online as 'fake' * Foreign Ministry dismisses Brazil’s suggestion to cede Russian-occupied Crimea in exchange for peace with Moscow * Russian technicians may have sabotaged Slovak-provided MiG-29...
kyivindependent.com
However it isn't any of these outlets that tells me they are obvious fakes, it is that the information doesn't pass the smell test. There is no way Russia only has 15,000 or 17,500 KIA as is presented on the slides. That number is for the consumption of the Russian public. This supposed leak shows: a) the Russians are doing amazingly well -and- b) the Russians are actually fighting America and NATO. It is propaganda.
Bucknutz
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There are a ton of outlets reporting they are fake.
‘Secret’ US and Nato war plans are fake, says Ukraine
‘(Russia’s) intelligence services have degenerated to the point where they can only rehabilitate themselves with fake information,’ Ukraine’s Mykhailo Podolyak tweeted.Leaked Ukraine counteroffensive plans may have been Putin ploy, says expert
The Pentagon says it's "reviewing" the reports of leaked military documents concerning Ukraine's planned counteroffensive.Leaked "counteroffensive plan" is fake and part of Russian information campaign – Defence Intelligence
Andrii Yusov, a representative of the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine, has said that the so-called "classified military documents" about the plans of the Armed Forces of Ukraine leaked to the network are forgery and a special operation of the Russian secret services.news.yahoo.com
Ukraine war latest: Kyiv dismisses classified war papers leaked online as 'fake'
Key developments on April 7: * Ukraine's intelligence dismisses classified war documents leaked online as 'fake' * Foreign Ministry dismisses Brazil’s suggestion to cede Russian-occupied Crimea in exchange for peace with Moscow * Russian technicians may have sabotaged Slovak-provided MiG-29...
However it isn't any of these outlets that tells me they are obvious fakes, it is that the information doesn't pass the smell test. There is no way Russia only has 15,000 or 17,500 KIA as is presented on the slides. That number is for the consumption of the Russian public. This supposed leak shows: a) the Russians are doing amazingly well -and- b) the Russians are actually fighting America and NATO. It is propaganda.
Thanks I’ll check out these articles. I don’t know the actual totals of KIA on either side because the info I have been reading has a wide range of numbers. But I understand what point. Thanks again.
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Russians are stealing art from Ukraine on World War II scale, experts say
“Our research suggests that this looting is state-sponsored by Russia,” said a researcher at the Smithsonian Institution, which is preparing a report on the massive scale of the theft.
www.nbcnews.com
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Putin aspires to Hitlerian heights of power apparently. What a piece of human garbage.Russians are stealing art from Ukraine on World War II scale, experts say
“Our research suggests that this looting is state-sponsored by Russia,” said a researcher at the Smithsonian Institution, which is preparing a report on the massive scale of the theft.
Al-O-Meter
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It is looking like the leak is real, and fake depending on which cache you are looking at.
From Discord to 4chan: The Improbable Journey of a US Intelligence Leak - bellingcat
A recent leak of sensitive US intelligence documents leads to stranger corners of the internet than initially thought.
www.bellingcat.com
Bucknutz
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It is looking like the leak is real, and fake depending on which cache you are looking at.
From Discord to 4chan: The Improbable Journey of a US Intelligence Leak - bellingcat
A recent leak of sensitive US intelligence documents leads to stranger corners of the internet than initially thought.
View: https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1645499884131295263?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ
Can’t confirm or deny, but don’t report on it.
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If be nice if we could get someone in government who wasn't 105 years old. Newspapers and television is how they think public awareness spreads?
The tweet said "warn", but I didn't hear a warning in that clip.
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Sadly, much of the support Putin enjoys from the American right is nothing more than just outright bigotry towards fellow Americans. He’s seen as a defender of white conservative Christianity.
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Sadly, much of the support Putin enjoys from the American right is nothing more than just outright bigotry towards fellow Americans. He’s seen as a defender of white conservative Christianity.
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In a world where everyone is looking for reasons to be offended even mentioning that something might be better if it were restricted a bit comes across as a dire warning that needs to be railed against ad nauseum.