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[Elizah Huge]

I am on the Keep Lauri train right now. Josh Giddey does absolutely intrigue me though.

 

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Really not a fan of trading Lauri in any way, shape or form, unless he firmly tells us he will not re-sign.

7 foot guys who shoot 50/40/90 (ish) are just really hard to find. He is a perfect complimentary piece to a true, #1, star option, which we have the assets to acquire should one become available.

IMO, that should remain the focus.

The odds of a true #1 becoming available right now in the early to middle portion of his prime is pretty low and we don't have the assets to outbid the rockets or thunder if one does become available. It wouldn't shock me to see Curry, Kawhi, KD or Jimmy Butler hit the market but I think all of them would be a recipe for disaster. How long are you willing to wait in the middle ground before you consider pulling the plug? Lauri's value is probably at an all time high with his salary easy to absorb by multiple teams and so many teams feeling like he could be the piece that could get them over the top. These next 2 drafts also have a pretty big impact on my thinking because I think the top 5 talent in both drafts may be pretty special.

 

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So they would trade Mitchell for a single draft pick?

Why do you make stupid posts like this?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Why do you make stupid posts like this?

Because you're saying moronic stuff.

 

[bigmike]

The odds of a true #1 becoming available right now in the early to middle portion of his prime is pretty low and we don't have the assets to outbid the rockets or thunder if one does become available. It wouldn't shock me to see Curry, Kawhi, KD or Jimmy Butler hit the market but I think all of them would be a recipe for disaster. How long are you willing to wait in the middle ground before you consider pulling the plug? Lauri's value is probably at an all time high with his salary easy to absorb by multiple teams and so many teams feeling like he could be the piece that could get them over the top. These next 2 drafts also have a pretty big impact on my thinking because I think the top 5 talent in both drafts may be pretty special.

I don't necessarily disagree with your thought process. If we whiff on building a playoff competitive roster this offseason, and he decides not to accept a 4-year extension, it makes a lot of sense to sell high on Lauri.

I also don't assume we'll trade for an Ant, Luka or Giannis caliber guy. But Durant has been traded. Joel Embiid may be getting antsy. Devin Booker is almost certainly on the move. Jimmy Butler, Paul George, SGA, Damian Lillard, Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard, Donovan Mitchell, and Jrue Holiday have all been traded in recent years with multiple "prime" years left.

IMO, it all comes down to guaranteed years of team control we could get for a guy like that in a trade, but if Lauri re-signs, I'm personally willing to wait another ~1-2 years for the right cornerstone piece to come along. Pending OKC's moves, we'd be in the catbird seat given how many picks we could give up.

I don't hate the full-blown rebuild. It's fun to watch young guys develop and daydream about lotto balls bouncing your way for generational guys. But it can also be a recipe to suck for years, and years, and years.

 

[NAOS_pt2]

Give me 12 this year, the next two years of Clips picks, and our own pick back, Dieng and Wallace and I’m in. If they want to sub Wallace out for Giddy I take another protected pick.

I’d then work to flip 12 and the protected pick we go for #5 this year to get Castle. I may send Giddy out but if the offers aren’t great he’s worth a shot to see if there is something there.

This is for Lauri, I presume?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

This is for Lauri, I presume?

Yeah.

 

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Because you're saying moronic stuff.

What did I say that was moronic? After trading Gobert we were not going to keep Mitchell. Of course you had to say something stupid like would you trade him for a single pick as if that would ever be the best offer for a 25yr old Mitchell with 3 more years on his contract. Just a stupid thing to say but you do that a lot.

 

[fishonjazz]

Uhh, wut? It did not. They traded Mitchell because the value was insane.

Seemed like there was a lot of talk of trading Mitchell before the cavs offer. I got the impression that we were looking to trade Donovan. Not that we weren't looking to and the cavs just called up with an amazing offer and so we then decided to trade him.


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[fishonjazz]

I also don't assume we'll trade for an Ant, Luka or Giannis caliber guy. But Durant has been traded. Joel Embiid may be getting antsy. Devin Booker is almost certainly on the move. Jimmy Butler, Paul George, SGA, Damian Lillard, Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard, Donovan Mitchell, and Jrue Holiday have all been traded in recent years with multiple "prime" years left.

SGA doesn't belong with those other guys. He wasn't a star with he was traded

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

What did I say that was moronic? After trading Gobert we were not going to keep Mitchell. Of course you had to say something stupid like would you trade him for a single pick as if that would ever be the best offer for a 25yr old Mitchell with 3 more years on his contract. Just a stupid thing to say but you do that a lot.

They traded Mitchell because they got a great offer. If they didnt get a great offer, they would have held onto him until they got a great offer. Point blank period.

 

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I don't necessarily disagree with your thought process. If we whiff on building a playoff competitive roster this offseason, and he decides not to accept a 4-year extension, it makes a lot of sense to sell high on Lauri.

I also don't assume we'll trade for an Ant, Luka or Giannis caliber guy. But Durant has been traded. Joel Embiid may be getting antsy. Devin Booker is almost certainly on the move. Jimmy Butler, Paul George, SGA, Damian Lillard, Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard, Donovan Mitchell, and Jrue Holiday have all been traded in recent years with multiple "prime" years left.

IMO, it all comes down to guaranteed years of team control we could get for a guy like that in a trade, but if Lauri re-signs, I'm personally willing to wait another ~1-2 years for the right cornerstone piece to come along. Pending OKC's moves, we'd be in the catbird seat given how many picks we could give up.

I don't hate the full-blown rebuild. It's fun to watch young guys develop and daydream about lotto balls bouncing your way for generational guys. But it can also be a recipe to suck for years, and years, and years.

I would say it is highly unlikely that Booker is on the move unless it is to the nets for their picks back. I wouldn't touch Embiid with the 10 foot pole with his age and continued injury history. The most likely so called 1 to be moved is Trae Young and I don't really have any interest in him. When you look around the rest of the league the players that are stars or look like they are about to take that next step are in really good spots or still on rookie contracts so their current teams won't feel any pressure to move them for a while. I wouldn't predict any chaos with guys that we would actually be interest in for at least the next couple years. The most likely one would be Zion but if he hits the market then it's probably because his injuries have been an issue again. I think we probably see a bunch of these older guys at the end of their primes moved over the next few years but I have no interest in them.