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The Paths Forward From Here

Which path should we take?

  • Compete now - Trade for a "star" (Dejounte Murray, Zach LaVine, Quickley, or a similar type player)

    Votes: 16 21.1%

  • Chill mode - Just ride the fence until next offseason

    Votes: 2 2.6%

  • Consolidate and roll with the young players more - trade some of KO, THT, Clarkson, Collins, Sexton

    Votes: 50 65.8%

  • Tank City - Pursue a Lauri trade that nets us a haul and start a true 3-4 year tank

    Votes: 8 10.5%
  • Total voters
    76
HermanG said:
Is there an echo in JFC?

Anyways, untouchable means "you wont be willing to pay the price we would want". Larsen said his information is from the front office, so he is carrying their water. He clearly said Keyonte is untouchable and while Lauri isnt, its unlikely we trade him and the price would have to be super high. Everyone else was either on the block or not mentioned. There is a difference between those two things (Keyonte and Lauri)... which is that for Lauri is "suprise us with a big boy offer and he is yours", and for Keyonte its "dont bother calling, you arent willing to pay what we would want".

That doesnt mean that Keyonte is valued high, just that his value to Jazz as a developmental piece is so much higher than his market value as a trade piece would be. Keyonte also doesnt distrub the tank the way Lauri does, if that is DA's short term goal.
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Keyonte being untouchable in any way, shape or form would be totally bizarre.

The whole question is theoretical, though. He doesn't even have a market at his current level.
 
What I think should happen yesterday is tighten up the rotation based on who has played the best the most often (consistent good play) with a splash of who we want to develop and who we think (or want to find out) will be able to help us reach our goals 2 or 3 years from now

Based off that I would give the most minutes to these guys in something like this order:
Lauri
Sexton
Simone
Kessler
Ochai
collins (he is still kinda young and on contract that might be hard to trade so he might be around for a while and his stats and consistency aren't bad. I felt icky putting him here though)
Key
THT
Taylor

That is a 9 man rotation. The rest get garbage time/inury time/foul trouble time minutes. I also know that there is no way in hell hardy would ever do this.

I voted for the #3 option. That would help hardy to do the right thing.
 
fishonjazz said:
What I think should happen yesterday is tighten up the rotation based on who has played the best the most often (consistent good play) with a splash of who we want to develop and who we think (or want to find out) will be able to help us reach our goals 2 or 3 years from now

Based off that I would give the most minutes to these guys in something like this order:
Lauri
Sexton
Simone
Kessler
Ochai
collins (he is still kinda young and on contract that might be hard to trade so he might be around for a while and his stats and consistency aren't bad. I felt icky putting him here though)
Key
THT
Taylor

That is a 9 man rotation. The rest get garbage time/inury time/foul trouble time minutes.

I voted for the #3 option.
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Why isnt Dunn on the list? He has made the most of his recently increased workload.
 
HermanG said:
Why isnt Dunn on the list? He has made the most of his recently increased workload.
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Honestly a big part is age and not being around in 2-3 years. Plus you used the word "recently". He hasn't played the best, the most when looking at the season as a whole. Mostly not his fault because he didn't get minutes for most of the season but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

The rotation needs to tighten. Some guys that maybe deserve to get some minutes simply don't get them. It's tough but giving everyone minutes isn't the way imo. Gotta upset some dudes.

Btw Im fine if you go with Dunn and never play tht. Just gotta pick between them. Don't play 4 pg's for ****s sake.
I go with tht cause he is younger and has more potential.



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JJ Redick talked with Tim Legler on his most recent podcast episode and Lauri to OKC was brought up by JJ. No trade details or anything but JJ said he is the perfect player OKC should go after.
 
The thing about Dunn is that no matter how well he plays, he's still an extremely limited offensive player who teams can so easily game plan against.

He was great last night in the clutch. But is his 3 ball and a running 15 footer really something we can bank on?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Sexton/Yurt and a pick for IQ/Fournier is about the price I'd pay. KO/Dunn/Yurt plus a pick for IQ/Fournier would be another iteration.

If the price is higher than that right now I wait until the offseason and try to do a sign and trade maybe... or move on to other targets. If you know what you are going to have to pay him I'm willing to push more onto the table.
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Another iteration that came to mind....THT to WAS and Delon to NYK. We send out KO/THT and receive IQ/Fournier. NYK gets two really useful role players in Delon+KO. We make up the difference in picks, I don't think it should be much more than one pick though.
 
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