the real terroist the: TSA

[YB85]

The problem is that people's level of comfort are not equal. *I* am ok with someone running their hand up my leg and rub my balls, but I am *not* ready to see the same done to my wife or a kid. So tomorrow some jackass shapes a charge of plastic explosive in the form of a *****, stuffs it in his *** and then tries to blow up a plane. Will you be ok with the full body cavity searches that imminently will follow? Today, I am flying for Thanksgiving and will have to go through the scanners and/or patdowns. I don't like it one bit but I will do it because I have no other choice. I can't get the train to Hawaii.

Regarding the politicizing of the problem - what I really hate is the republican's reaction. When their boy was implementing measures to be able to wiretap each American's communications without a warrant and other anti-terror measures they were jumping up and down yelling "if we don't do it, terrorists will win". Now because the other guy's doing it, they are all about "rights and privacy". What a hypocrites.

There is no right answer and that's the real problem. If we go back to 9/10/01 security measures, that's too lax, but if we go to 11/24/10 security measures, that's too rigid. The Bad Guys are going to get around whatever is out there and that action is going to cause another drastic reaction. This is the world we live in and unfortunately it's the price we pay to travel.

 

[VINYLONE]

Answer the question Greg. Are you fine with a rectal examination if it's in the name of security?

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Sorta like HGH. The bad guys are always one step ahead and will find a way.

 

[YB85]

Answer the question Greg. Are you fine with a rectal examination if it's in the name of security?

Do I get a kiss after?

 

[Bronco70]

There is no right answer and that's the real problem. If we go back to 9/10/01 security measures, that's too lax, but if we go to 11/24/10 security measures, that's too rigid. The Bad Guys are going to get around whatever is out there and that action is going to cause another drastic reaction. This is the world we live in and unfortunately it's the price we pay to travel.

Agreed. The fact of the matter is, regardless of what measures do or do not exist, somebody will be unhappy with it.

 

[dodo]

Agreed. The fact of the matter is, regardless of what measures do or do not exist, somebody will be unhappy with it.

Well, that argument can be turned upside down - The fact of the matter is, regardless of what measures exist, somebody will find a way around them and try to bring down an airliner.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Well, that argument can be turned upside down - The fact of the matter is, regardless of what measures exist, somebody will find a way around them and try to bring down an airliner.

Or terrorists will get smarter and decide that blowing away airliners is a thing of the past. Once they start targeting malls, arenas, and schools, then the crap really hits the fan.

 

[Bronco70]

Agreed. The fact of the matter is, regardless of what measures do or do not exist, somebody will be unhappy with it.

Well, that argument can be turned upside down - The fact of the matter is, regardless of what measures exist, somebody will find a way around them and try to bring down an airliner.

It wasn't an argument. It was a statement. And it was more about politics than safety.

 

[Agoxlea]

You have freedom of speech, but that doesn't mean that a private newspaper is required to print whatever you want to say. Just as you are free to move about the country, but an airline doesn't have to allow you to board their plane if you do not comply with their security procedures. What are people not understanding about that?

You realize the airlines aren't the same as the TSA. Last time the airlines were in charge of security was almost a decade ago. Pretty much every single one of your posts has assumed the airlines are in favor of these security measures when in fact it is the TSA that implemented them. How have you not been calle out on that in any of the 3 times you've gotten that wrong in this thread?

 

[Bronco70]

You realize the airlines aren't the same as the TSA. Last time the airlines were in charge of security was almost a decade ago. Pretty much every single one of your posts has assumed the airlines are in favor of these security measures when in fact it is the TSA that implemented them. How have you not been calle out on that in any of the 3 times you've gotten that wrong in this thread?

I'm completely speculating here, but I would imagine that if the airlines themselves were in charge of security, it would be just as strict (if not more so) and air travel would cost 3-4 times what it does now, after overhead, insurance, and factoring in that all but the biggest airlines would either go out of business, or be gobbled up by 2 or 3 major companies, making it a moot point for all us regular joes.

Again, that's only my conjecture. And one awesome run-on sentence.

 

[dodo]

I'm completely speculating here, but I would imagine that if the airlines themselves were in charge of security, it would be just as strict (if not more so) and air travel would cost 3-4 times what it does now, after overhead, insurance, and factoring in that all but the biggest airlines would either go out of business, or be gobbled up by 2 or 3 major companies, making it a moot point for all us regular joes.

Again, that's only my conjecture. And one awesome run-on sentence.

The private industry can and will do things cheaper, more efficient and with less overhead than the government. That's why even strategically important industries such as defense, aircraft development and production and now even NASA (will be) are dominated by private contractors. All it takes is a government subsidy to offset the cost and it doesn't have to be that expensive.

 

[Gameface]

You realize the airlines aren't the same as the TSA. Last time the airlines were in charge of security was almost a decade ago. Pretty much every single one of your posts has assumed the airlines are in favor of these security measures when in fact it is the TSA that implemented them. How have you not been calle out on that in any of the 3 times you've gotten that wrong in this thread?

It boggles the mind, doesn't it? Would it make you feel better if I told you I knew that already.
I wonder if you would feel differently if it was individual airlines that had implemented these measures?