The Return -- Celtics @ Jazz 11/9/2019 7:30 pm MST ESPN

[LoPo]

Hard to be part of any flow playing less than 3 minutes.

But you are right - the kid looks lost. It's on Quin to find him a role on O so we can reap the benefit of his D.

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[Jazz]

I got to agree the double standard between Rubio and Dante is bad. I'd say trade Dante I think it will be better for him. At this stage I just feel bad for him

 

[framer]

Did you see that Mitchell spoke to three or four members of the Celtics for longer than Haywood spoke to Jingles, his "best friend" on the team? Haywood walks of the court before any of his teammates did as well. It appears that whatever locker room dysfunction Haywood felt he had with the Jazz has followed him to Boston as well. The players have to recognize that any chance of the Celtics getting better through acquisitions is being eaten by Haywood's huge contract.

Glad it's them and not us.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

DDid you even watch the game? Exum was complete garbage. Turnover, terrible defense. He looked like a rookie. Exum has played well in other games and Snyder has given him minutes. But you can't keep playing a guy who is shooting 41%/29%. He took 2 shots in those 3 minutes and his 3 wasn't even close. I'm sure Quin was trying to send Dante a message. But I'm afraid Exum is one of those players who makes the NBA and then just doesn't work hard enough to improve. Yes, I realize he's been hurt. But he still can't shoot.

You may get your wish. The Dante experiment in Utah may end as soon as the deadline or the summer. Utah HAS to get better bench production. Dante, O'Neale and Niang aren't providing much help. Crowder has been a stud and I suspect he'll be the starter next season when the Jazz decline Favors' team option.

lol Jockstrap what planet are you on ?? all three of Exum, O'Neale and Niang have provided great minutes at times mixed in with some bad games, the bench has generally been pretty good. . If they weren't inconsistent they wouldn't be bench players. The starting 5 has sucked. Exum's 3 wasn't close because it was a last second beat the shot clock attempt after he was passed the ball with the clock about to go off. He looked terrible last night but it's pretty harsh being judge on a couple of minutes. He'll be back to his normal minutes next game, Quin obviously REALLY wanted to win this game and went with the guys he trusts. If you're really going to say you can't keep playing a guy who is shooting 41/29 % then why has Rubio been still getting onto the court ??

The thing i find weird is the first handful of games Exum was as agressive as heck trying to go to the basket while the last 4-5 he seems to be trying to be the distributor ??

Going to be interesting to see how the next 30-35 games pan out.

 

[Jazz]

Rubio is so overrated by quin. He plays over 30 mins a game. It shouldn't be to hard for him cause quin would have lots of plays that are run for him. So Rubio knows where the others will be at all times on the court. But he still turns the ball over all the time. He's not fast, he can't stay in front of opposition guards, he can steal the ball, he can't shoot. He can assist the ball when he's not turning it over. On the other hand Dante wouldn't have many plays run for him. Just let him play attack. Don't make him stand in the corner that's not his strength. Just give him freedom and tell him to attack. The problem he was attacking really well but the last couple of games all of sudden he stands in the corner. Thats coming from quin. He plays less than 15 mins a game. Give the kid a chance to play 30 mins and see what u got. He's an athletic freak. Before u sign Rubio to 3 years 60 million which I will tell u he will get slower each year. Can u imagine Rubio in 2 years how slow he will be. Take a look at Dante and give him a chance to play. Not stand in the corner. I mean tell him to attack and run plays for him!!! Play with freedom and don't take him out after 1 turnover!!!

 

[Et tu Brute]

To be honest I don't think Exum will ever figure it out.

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Figure what out?
You do realize he is trying to mould himself to what Quin wants and feels the team needs.

Stay infront of the oppositions fastest guard when he is on the court. Use his speed as a change up to collapse the defense or get to the rim. Otherwise stand around and look as if he wants to take an open shot.

He has been doing ok.
Do you expect him to be someone else in this system? It would only be fair to hope he was a bit more efficient. But he is what he is (as Q sees him).

 

[Et tu Brute]

DDid you even watch the game? Exum was complete garbage. Turnover, terrible defense. He looked like a rookie. Exum has played well in other games and Snyder has given him minutes. But you can't keep playing a guy who is shooting 41%/29%. He took 2 shots in those 3 minutes and his 3 wasn't even close. I'm sure Quin was trying to send Dante a message. But I'm afraid Exum is one of those players who makes the NBA and then just doesn't work hard enough to improve. Yes, I realize he's been hurt. But he still can't shoot.

You may get your wish. The Dante experiment in Utah may end as soon as the deadline or the summer. Utah HAS to get better bench production. Dante, O'Neale and Niang aren't providing much help. Crowder has been a stud and I suspect he'll be the starter next season when the Jazz decline Favors' team option.

Wow. Jack.. This is a horrible take.
You don't think Dante's solid play this year deserved another chance last night?
Wow just wow.

First or second play on the court he was hit with his customary BS foul. Then made a TO, an assist and a missed shot on the buzzer.

Not his greatest three minutes. But you really think Q's response was justified?

 

[RickyStan]

@MVP Rubio had a stretch in the 2nd quarter when he had two bad turnovers and 2 bricks. And he didn't have an assist.

Yes, Rubio was clutch last night at times but he was dreadful at times too. Exum was bad in his 3 minutes, but it was only 3 minutes.

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In the interest of accuracy i have to say that the only quarter Ricky had 2 turnovers in was the 1st and the only quarter he missed >1 shot in was the 4th.

 

[utahjazzz]

Rubio is so overrated by quin. He plays over 30 mins a game. It shouldn't be to hard for him cause quin would have lots of plays that are run for him. So Rubio knows where the others will be at all times on the court. But he still turns the ball over all the time. He's not fast, he can't stay in front of opposition guards, he can steal the ball, he can't shoot. He can assist the ball when he's not turning it over. On the other hand Dante wouldn't have many plays run for him. Just let him play attack. Don't make him stand in the corner that's not his strength. Just give him freedom and tell him to attack. The problem he was attacking really well but the last couple of games all of sudden he stands in the corner. Thats coming from quin. He plays less than 15 mins a game. Give the kid a chance to play 30 mins and see what u got. He's an athletic freak. Before u sign Rubio to 3 years 60 million which I will tell u he will get slower each year. Can u imagine Rubio in 2 years how slow he will be. Take a look at Dante and give him a chance to play. Not stand in the corner. I mean tell him to attack and run plays for him!!! Play with freedom and don't take him out after 1 turnover!!!

Could not agree more. The way snyder has treated Dante in the last few years is nothing short of a disgrace. He would have averaged 20 points a game this season right now if he has been given 30 minutes a night like Mitchell.

I said a few months ago that Dante should not resign a new contract with the jazz becuase snyder would treat him like an idiot and restrict his playing time. This is what is happening right now.

Getting 10 millions a year is good, but if I were you Dante I would ask for a trade. Go to another nba team who value your ability
and give you ample playing time which allow you to develop as a player. Putting up with snyder's nonsenses and sitting in his dog house is not going to help your basketball career. Snyder is not going to change the way he treats you. ASK FOR A TRADE RIGHT NOW!

 

[Griffin]

You Exum's homers are oblivious to the fact that he spend 4 years in NBA and still can't run half court offence. He is ok in run and gun fast paced game only. Teams like Boston who slows you down and make you run half court offense is a nightmare for Exum and thank goodness for Rubio last night who with his ****** shot is still 100X better playmaker than Exum is.

Why do you think he is ok at fast paced games when he’s not even fast in your words?

 

[RickyStan]

Why do you think he is ok at fast paced games when he’s not even fast in your words?

Because in the open court there are driving lanes for him to get to the hoop. He can't really do anything else so he's hurt badly by playing against set defenses.