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the situation in Egypt

It wasn't faulty intelligence, it was fraudulent intelligence. They made the whole thing up. But these two events do actually have correlation - oil and control. The US is not going to keep their massive domestic oil reserves off limits forever. They just need the right price point to start tapping them. Get the prices high enough through Middle Eastern chaos and central bank priming, start tapping into the US reserves, and you ruin the OPEC cartel and the dollar at the same time. Remember the reason these guys got rich in the first place is because the US agreed not to provide them with competition and to buy their product. China already has resource deals with Russia. These poor ******** that are protesting in the streets are going to be nomads again soon.

"Greenies" are only idiots because they think a green revolution is going to happen soon. The world doesn't work that way. There is no chance of that happening before the US reserves are profiteered to the fullest extent.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Duck Rodgers again

Funny how the press doesn't say much about the new oil developments in Nebraska, SD,ND, and Montana. And how we don't hear about the super fields in the Gulf until a drilling operation is just horribly messed up.

I knew someone in the oil business in Utah and visited his little war room. He had a huge map all across his two walls showing eastern Utah developments, and told me there was even more in New Mexico. Given to understatements of his case, I took it as something equal to Texas.

That was back when the Escalante Staircase National Monument was fresh news. I had known something about the coal on Kaiparowits, and I had heard how Bill Clinton spent two weeks on the Rockefeller property in Jackson Hole, then flew down to the South Rim of the Grand Canyon, had some old forest trees knocked down and dragged outta the view so he could have a photo op waving his arm out over the Grand Canyon declaring a "National Monument" the bigger than Hawaii, Connecticut and New Jersey, and shutting down a multi-billion dollar development owned by the Dutch.

My acquaintance, who was in a position to know, told me the reason: "We can't let them (the Dutch) have that coal."

When the right time comes, and the right people own the resource, the National Monument rules will be changed to allow development.

Same thing with oil shale.
 
Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters. ~ Franklin
 

Did someone knock? Oh Vinyl. And I thought we'd put this one to bed.

Kinda interesting to see the whole different attitude about Libyans wanting freedom, too. We had the American-built Egyptian army in place to take control in Egypt, and Mubarak didn't even call out the troops. But in Libya we lack the hard "intelligence" to know it's really "safe" to support an unknown rebel movement.
 
SOURCE

By Jeffrey Fleishman and Amro Hassan, Los Angeles Times
March 21, 2011

Reporting from Cairo—
Egyptians moved further beyond the legacy of former President Hosni Mubarak's strongman rule by voting overwhelmingly to amend the nation's constitution and head swiftly toward parliamentary and presidential elections, according to results of a referendum announced Sunday.

The referendum, which calls for judicial oversight of elections and limited presidential terms, was the first step to bring Egypt closer to a democracy after decades of corrupt one-party rule. The outcome is expected to spur chaotic, if exciting, races for parliament and president in coming months.

The measure passed with 77.2% of the vote. More than 18 million voters, or about 41% of those eligible, cast ballots nationwide Saturday.

In addition to limiting presidents to two four-year terms, the constitutional changes will eliminate restrictions on the formation of political parties and require a popular referendum before the country's controversial emergency law, often employed to limit dissent, is used for more than six months.

The result was a victory for Egyptians wanting to seize the momentum from the Jan. 25 revolution and elect a civilian government to replace the military now ruling the country. The generals have public support, but many Egyptians have grown wary of the army's influence over the state.

"I'm happy," said Hater Maher, a 24-year-old university student. "Those amendments should be enough to govern the country for the next few months. We needed them to prepare for elections."

The losers in the poll were reformists such as Nobel Peace Prize laureate Mohamed ElBaradei, who cautioned that the nation was not politically mature enough to field elections as early as June.

The concern is that fledgling political parties, including those formed by young activists, will not be organized in time to compete with more established organizations, such as the Muslim Brotherhood and the former ruling National Democratic Party. Critics said the referendum lacked sufficient breadth to reform the Arab world's most populous nation.

"I'm disappointed but it was a democratic process and I have to accept the majority," said Ahmed Magdi, a 29-year-old shop owner. "We did not need a referendum so soon after the revolution. We're not ready to decide something so important."

jeffrey.fleishman@latimes.com

Hassan is a news assistant in The Times' Cairo bureau.
 
has the UN finally learned to do what is necessary. or is it jsut that they got pressured into action by countries who are mad that the oil [prices are rising.

as i remeber UN takes no aciton or takes action to late.
like rwanda dafur etc. they did almost nothing there. but now since oil prices are affected they are getting **** done.

so UN is just controled by selfish countries
 
Were or are the initial protests in Tunisia and Egypt now considered game changers?

Might be the law of unintended consequences at work here, but I think the people in all the Mideast strongman ruled countries do want their own government, and not some stooge government that's just playing footsies with the world powers.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY-_JsNrxiM


Another great video posted by Vinyl, would rep if I could. Farrakhan is historically an ***hat though, despite the accuracy of what he had to say here.
 
I still can't get over that 80% of their women can't enjoy sex. A society that does that to women doesn't really deserve "freedom."

Late response I am aware but thought I'd chime in.

Hey Sapa. Im Muslim. Sexual abstinence is strictly a muslim thing, right?? 80% of women cant have recreational sex, even after marriage? Is that what youre heading towards? If so, thank you for providing a good minute full of laughter.
 
No wonder I drink so damned much. Some people are bat **** crazy, but I guess I need the booze to put me over the hump.

Over.
 
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