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I expect Burke to be faster (laterally) and to have worked on his weaknesses in the off-season. Because that's what the off-season is for. If he hasn't improved the Jazz have a problem.
 
I expect Burke to be faster (laterally) and to have worked on his weaknesses in the off-season. Because that's what the off-season is for. If he hasn't improved the Jazz have a problem.

I think it is logical to expect (or hope for) that. From what I have seen so far, the timing on his jumpshot actually looks worse, and he doesn't seem to have improved elsewhere. Then again, it was one showing in summer league.
 
One of the reasons I liked him out of college is he got quite a bit better from freshman to sophomore year. I think the kid is a worker and will get better. Second year will likely tell us what he is. We can plan from there.
 
No they dont

They have Dante Exum at PG, and Alec Burks at SG

Burke is redundant and will be easy to trade on his rookie contract

Unfortunately, not going to get #9 value out of the deal. IMO, better off starting Trey and hope he has decent stats (40% FG's). Then wait for another team to have a PG get hurt. Perhaps we can get a pick with limited protection or one in the late first from a playoff team. We'd then have a couple of 2015 firsts to try to trade up.
 
Unfortunately, not going to get #9 value out of the deal. IMO, better off starting Trey and hope he has decent stats (40% FG's). Then wait for another team to have a PG get hurt. Perhaps we can get a pick with limited protection or one in the late first from a playoff team. We'd then have a couple of 2015 firsts to try to trade up.

Well, if a #20 pick may get us better talent in a stronger draft. Last years draft was pretty bad.
 
Unfortunately, not going to get #9 value out of the deal. IMO, better off starting Trey and hope he has decent stats (40% FG's). Then wait for another team to have a PG get hurt. Perhaps we can get a pick with limited protection or one in the late first from a playoff team. We'd then have a couple of 2015 firsts to try to trade up.

+9 means nothing when it comes from a horrible draft

hes average at best
 
+9 means nothing when it comes from a horrible draft

hes average at best
He'd most likely have more value as an add in to a bigger deal. I wouldn't want to try and trade him for a pick strait up, but I could see him being a package piece. More value there. . . especially on a rookie deal.
 
Our starting 5 needs to be exum, burks, Hayward, favors, kanter... Burke is a back-up, but burke won't accept that I think. I def think we will have problems down the road because burks wants to start. He has said so in the past and imo he deserves it. My prediction is if we play him off the bench again this year we can kiss him goodbye. He won't want to re-sign.
 
Your point sucks, its not even a reach, its a flat out ****ty comparison that only a homer would make. Delusions of grandeur.

Chris Paul was the #1 offensive option(16.1 attempts per game) on the Hornets while leading the league in assists and steals in his 3rd season while shooting 49% from the field and 37% from 3.

None of what you typed has anything to do with my point. Paul is great I know this as I'm a New Orleans fan and have watched his career. The point is Chris Paul is not an iso break guys down off the dribble to create at the rim kind of player. You try to refute that by showing a highlight video of Paul and in every half court play Paul used some form of screen play.
 
None of what you typed has anything to do with my point. Paul is great I know this as I'm a New Orleans fan and have watched his career. The point is Chris Paul is not an iso break guys down off the dribble to create at the rim kind of player. You try to refute that by showing a highlight video of Paul and in every half court play Paul used some form of screen play.

You're wrong. Chris Paul can get to the rack without a screen, you discount what he does in transition, but Trey doesnt got it like that. why would you limit CP3 by having him play Allen Iverson iso ball when he's the best decision maker at PG in the P+R since Stockton.

Trey Burke's shot selection, BBIQ and intangibles are not even close to Chris Paul's, He's a HoF'er to-be, Trey Burke just had a very average Rookie year. A terrible comparison that would only to be made by a hometown fan.
 
CP3 struggled a bit on his 3's his rookie year, but still managed to shoot 43% overall (compared to 38% for Trey).

Last season there were 28 "qualifying" PG's who shot better than Trey (qualifying means more than 300 makes). Add in the players who were injured, were backups or just didn't shoot as much (e.g. Bledsoe, Livingston, Lin, Jack, Hill, etc.) and you can drop Burke another 10+ spots. Burke does not do enough other things well to be a PG in the 40% or under range in FG%.

Burke lead the team in APG and pulled down 3 RPG saying he doesn't do anything else is completely unfair by that standard. Again he injured his shooting hand. This can't just easily be overlooked because you don't like his game.


Court vision, passing, "intelligence" - try to put lipstick on the pig as much as you want. Unless Trey improves his shooting, he has no place in the starting lineup. If he can't shoot, opposing PG's can just play 5 feet off and make passing inside very difficult. And face it, he's certainly not a "lockdown defender" so he gives Utah no advantage on the other side of the ball.

I do agree 100% here. Trey is not the type of athlete to be a big time player while shooting the ball poorly. However again to draw the conclusion Burke is a poor jump shooter you'd have to ignore the fact that he shot the ball with a injured index finger on his shooting hand which you guys seem more than happen to just gloss over for your own argument.

If he's remains healthy this season and shoots poorly then you have a case. But why wait though right when you can draw major conclusions on tampered and/or limited data because it supports how you want to feel about a player.
 
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