The Trey Burke Thread

[candrew]

Handle is loose because he is a taller player. All taller PG's have this problem. He will have to get better. It will be interesting to see how he reacts to more pressure from smaller/quicker guards.

No Jumping Bean is right - it's clearly conditioning. Proof of which being he never panicked with the ball. If he had a crap handle he would have terminated his dribble when being pressured; which is what all players do when they don't have confidence in their ball handling skills.

 

[fishonjazz]

Only thing I don't like is that I feel the 2nd unit would be too weak without Burks.

Can Burke carry a 2nd unit? Do we want him to try?

I know Burks can do those things pretty well and actually make the 2nd unit a strength.

I would say that minutes can be staggered so that you have someone (hayward, burks, exum, kanter) who can carry the second unit at all times

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

With all due respect, if that was the case, every wing in the league would have a killer crossover.

You miss the part where I said you have to have really good acceleration to make it work?'

From a ball handling standpoint, it's not a difficult move at all. A lot of players do it. You just have to ability to set the play up and then have the elite acceleration to move work. The amount of talent it takes for your left hand to catch a cross over and make 3 hard dribbles is not the hard part and doesn't prove he has a left hand.

And like I said, I don't know if he has one or not. I haven't seen him in enough game situations to decide that. But to say he does because he can do a simple cross over from his right to left hand says that he has a strong left hand is misguided.

 

[Jaymz]

Why not have 2 great pointguards in your back court? I would like to see this play out, I mean we have a ton of raw young talant. No one knows what they are all capable of yet under Quin Snyder. It's obvious most of us have been upset by the restrictions on our young talant's playing minutes set by Coach Tyrone Corbin. Quin is the specialist here, that's why we have him as our new coach. Trey said there is a lot more freedom in their offense. Let's just see what he does with them, it could end up working out a lot like Curry/Thompson. A great backcourt is pretty scary! We do need talant coming off from the bench, Jazz usually have had a strong bench when we were in playoff standings.
I say it's MUCH, MUCH too early to be making any of these calls. We need to grow like OKC and share the ball like Spurs.

I will say this, though. 10,000 at practice? standing ovation for Exum? If that's not a welcome to being our franchise super-star, I don't know what is.

 

[SojoDave]

The problem with Trey is that he physically outmatched every night. The opposing pg is usually taller, faster, and quicker. Trey has a hard time getting into the lane and his outside shot is not consistent. I don't see any of his weaknesses getting better.

 

[Jazz4ever]

Let's give Trey another year. Deron was no better than Trey his first year and then exploded in his second and third years. Even if Dante becomes a superstar there is no reason Trey can't be the 6th man and play 30 minutes a game. Every team was going super small in the playoffs, trading Trey for peanuts now makes no sense at all.

Exum
Burks
Hayward
Kanter
Favors

Bench: Burke (6th), Gobert, Hood, Evans

 

[Ellipse]

Exum has superstar potential, but I fear his confidence would get shattered if he had to log heavy minutes as point guard as a rookie. I'm fully confident Snyder will put the guys in roles in which they are most likely to succeed, so I can't imagine that's our starting lineup. Not saying those five won't share the court together a bunch this season, but I'd be shocked if that was the unit on the court in a close game down the stretch.

Is that what happened to Burke?

 

[Magic Spray]

Only thing I don't like is that I feel the 2nd unit would be too weak without Burks.

Can Burke carry a 2nd unit? Do we want him to try?

I know Burks can do those things pretty well and actually make the 2nd unit a strength.

That second unit would be

Trey
Clark
Hood
Evans
Gobert

That's pretty thin. Combined weight 900 pounds

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

That second unit would be

Trey
Clark
Hood
Evans
Gobert

That's pretty thin. Combined weight 900 pounds

Outside of Favors and Kanter our team is physically weak and skinny.

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

Outside of Favors and Kanter our team is physically weak and skinny.

I wouldn't say Burks and Hayward are weak and skinny. They could be stronger though, no doubt.

 

[jumpin bean]

Handle is loose because he is a taller player. All taller PG's have this problem. He will have to get better. It will be interesting to see how he reacts to more pressure from smaller/quicker guards.

you are right ,when you are taller you have a higher dribble and when you get gassed you tend to not low dribble enough to drive by your man easier.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Only thing I don't like is that I feel the 2nd unit would be too weak without Burks.

Can Burke carry a 2nd unit? Do we want him to try?

I know Burks can do those things pretty well and actually make the 2nd unit a strength.

It's a year of development and discovery. I'd really like to see the team try to put the best 5 players out on the court at the same time to see how they function together. I'm firmly in the camp that that lineup is Exum, Burks, Hayward, Kanter and Favors.

Let Burke and Hood battle it out to be the 6th man and spark the bench. If the starters perform as well as I think they can, then you work to improve the bench next year. We know that Burks can handle the 6th man role and we've only ever seen Kanter and Favors spell each other. I'd like to see them in the starting lineup before having to decide how to deal with their contract situation next year.

I think that they'd learn more about this team and their key young players if they concentrate on their top players and finding out how they fit together.