homeytennis
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It looks like a ton of players are hitting the waiver wire given the participation vs. the Lakers. Say good bye to Gaines, Jeffers, Nichols, and Thompson. JMHO,
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billyshelby
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They'll keep Jeffers. Non guaranteed. No one else.
homeytennis
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At least Jeffers is a good story.
Archie Moses
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I bet anything they keep Thompson. That's just my opinion though, but it's a pretty money most of the times.
vslice02
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I think the Jazz keep 13 (counting Okur):
PG Deron Williams - Earl Watson - Ronnie Price
SG Raja Bell - C.J. Miles
SF Andrei Kirilenko - Gordon Hayward
PF Paul Millsap - Jeremy Evans
C Al Jefferson - Kyrylo Fesenko - Francisco Elson - Mehmet Okur
Given Bell's and Miles' injury history, I'd like to see them keep another wing (Thompson or Jeffers) but at this point Utah wants to save as much money as possible (with this core) so they'll likely play Price at the 2 if someone goes down.
Also, I think if Okur comes back healthy (and barring a Kirilenko trade) Francisco Elson will be traded or waived before the end of the season. Maybe they sign another d-leaguer to take his spot or maybe they just go with a 12-man roster, but barring injury I doubt this team carries more than 13 players at any one time.
PG Deron Williams - Earl Watson - Ronnie Price
SG Raja Bell - C.J. Miles
SF Andrei Kirilenko - Gordon Hayward
PF Paul Millsap - Jeremy Evans
C Al Jefferson - Kyrylo Fesenko - Francisco Elson - Mehmet Okur
Given Bell's and Miles' injury history, I'd like to see them keep another wing (Thompson or Jeffers) but at this point Utah wants to save as much money as possible (with this core) so they'll likely play Price at the 2 if someone goes down.
Also, I think if Okur comes back healthy (and barring a Kirilenko trade) Francisco Elson will be traded or waived before the end of the season. Maybe they sign another d-leaguer to take his spot or maybe they just go with a 12-man roster, but barring injury I doubt this team carries more than 13 players at any one time.
homeytennis
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And you would save Gaines and Jeffers salary X2 because of the luxury tax and one of the other rooks salaries X2. That would be about $4million dollars in savings w/ salaries and LT according to homey math.
twentytwo
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League minimum is 13 players. I doubt they would try to move Elson's 1.2mil contract just to pick up a no-name who they would still have to pay half of that, especially if Elson keeps up last nights intensity. He got a "nice job" and a pat on the *** from Sloan in his first Jazz game. He'll probably retire with this team!
vslice02
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If Utah signed a d-leaguer w/no NBA experience in midseason (a la Gaines/Jeffers) it would cost them roughly $250k-$300k depending on when they sign him, resulting in a savings of about $900k or $1.8 counting the luxury tax.
Again, if Okur's healthy in the 2nd-half of the season and Fesenko proves to be a capable backup center, I'm not sure Utah would want to pay $1.2 million for their #3 center given their current payroll situation.
Again, if Okur's healthy in the 2nd-half of the season and Fesenko proves to be a capable backup center, I'm not sure Utah would want to pay $1.2 million for their #3 center given their current payroll situation.
Elson I believe has a guaranteed contract so we would still have to pay him if we waive him. So he will not be waived unless he has a serious injury. But, absolutely I will be surprised if we dont try to shed some salary at some point before the trade deadline.
homeytennis
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Houston cut a big that had pretty good DLeague numbers and was a second round draft pick the year SAP was picked. I'm assuming he heads back to the DLeague and that could be a body to bring in if need be. Houston signed him at the end of the year and I'm not sure why because they didn't give him a run in preseason at all.
First off, the Jazz only pay Elson the salary for a second year player ($854K), not the $1.2M quoted above. The league pays the difference, and only the $854K is included in team salary and LT calculations. Second, players who sign as free agents are counted as second year players ($854K) in LT calculations, even if they make less.
If the Jazz cut Elson and signed a rookie from the D-League right at the middle of the season, they would save $190K (half year's salary difference). No difference in the luxury tax.
candrew
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This is a great deal that The NBA has been running for some time now in order to keep veteran players in the league. I believe this is the first time Utah has ever taken advantage of it.
NotDeadYet
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Tough call for Sloan. For offense now, keep Gaines and use CJ and Price as b/u SGs, though neither exclusively. For defense at SG now, gotta keep Jeffers. For upside, I'd go with Thompson. Now watch him keep Nichols <grin>... They all looked like they can play in the NBA, so I won't gripe with how Sloan sees it...
I'd be very surprised if they dumped Elson; they finally add another big, and turn right around and dump him?? No way... Yes, I have read he's got a 2-year guaranteed contract too...
I'd be very surprised if they dumped Elson; they finally add another big, and turn right around and dump him?? No way... Yes, I have read he's got a 2-year guaranteed contract too...
homeytennis
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Elson adds some nastiness which is good.
Sure about the 2 years? I certainly thought it was for one year. I hope we did not sign him for two years.
homeytennis
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I think it is player option for the second year.