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The Utah Jazz have become a joke

Stoked said:
Have faith Yell. The jazz are forging a future. To forge something you have to go thru the fire. This season is that fire. Next year Jefferson, Lucas and Biedrins (at least) will be gone. Burke, Burks, Hayward, Kanter, Favors and Gobert will be better. Neto should come over and the Jazz will land a very good pick and another late 1st round pick in a loaded draft. Plus I fully expect a while new coaching staff next year. Not to mention some financial room going into free agency.

If we are this same team next year then I'll join you in bein pissed. But for now stay the course my fellow Jazz fan.
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green said:
Do most Jazzfanz realize that if the Jazz end up with the 6th pick or worse, there is a really good chance we are worse next year?
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Do you realize that even if we get the 1st pick we may be worse next year? We are losing Jefferson and maybe Marvin. A rookie coming in is going to struggle. We will lose experienced players and probably have a new coaching staff. I don't expect us to be worse even If we lose both Marvin and Jefferson but we could struggle without Marvin. Jefferson leaving is no big deal but without replacing his depth we could still be bad.
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Anybody who thinks/thought this was a 1 year rebuild was fooling themselves.
 
green said:
Do most Jazzfanz realize that if the Jazz end up with the 6th pick or worse, there is a really good chance we are worse next year?
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How can we end up worse? We are a very young team. If only half of our players continue to develop then we are still better.
You say that we could get worse with the 6th pick and 20mill to pick up free agents?

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green said:
Do most Jazzfanz realize that if the Jazz end up with the 6th pick or worse, there is a really good chance we are worse next year?
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gregbroncs said:
Do you realize that even if we get the 1st pick we may be worse next year? We are losing Jefferson and maybe Marvin. A rookie coming in is going to struggle. We will lose experienced players and probably have a new coaching staff. I don't expect us to be worse even If we lose both Marvin and Jefferson but we could struggle without Marvin. Jefferson leaving is no big deal but without replacing his depth we could still be bad.
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Anybody who thinks/thought this was a 1 year rebuild was fooling themselves.
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I guarantee we are better next year.

We will probably re sign marv, and we will uprade jeffy plus have 2 picks in a loaded draft, plus neto upgrade to lucas the third plus we have a good amount of money to spend on free agents plus a better coach.

Even without an upgrade at coach we will be better no doubt..... plus we probably wont start off 1-14
 
We will be better if we don't have Corbin. But we will be younger next year. We will have a rookie playing big minutes (we better have) and we will not have some of the players now that are playing decent minutes. We have not put our future core into positions this year to grow together. They are going to have to learn that next year, hopefully with a new coach.
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Fish our record may be better but does that mean the team is better? We have been average this year without injuries. So to be better we'd need to be better than average. I don't envision this team making the playoffs next year. I hope they are more competitive and that they do go out and get a bench to push for the playoffs.
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All that said there is a decent chance that we are a worse team next year. I don't think so and I hope not (just getting a new coach will make me believe that it's not possible). But if we lose Hayward, Jefferson and Marvin we will be worse. If we re-sign Hayward and Marvin I see it as very unlikely we get worse.
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1 top 5 pick is not really going to change our outcome next year. That was the point of my response to green
 
gregbroncs said:
We will be better if we don't have Corbin. But we will be younger next year. We will have a rookie playing big minutes (we better have) and we will not have some of the players now that are playing decent minutes. We have not put our future core into positions this year to grow together. They are going to have to learn that next year, hopefully with a new coach.
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Fish our record may be better but does that mean the team is better? We have been average this year without injuries. So to be better we'd need to be better than average. I don't envision this team making the playoffs next year. I hope they are more competitive and that they do go out and get a bench to push for the playoffs.
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All that said there is a decent chance that we are a worse team next year. I don't think so and I hope not (just getting a new coach will make me believe that it's not possible). But if we lose Hayward, Jefferson and Marvin we will be worse. If we re-sign Hayward and Marvin I see it as very unlikely we get worse.
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1 top 5 pick is not really going to change our outcome next year. That was the point of my response to green
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I think it depends on the pick, and how the Jazz view that pick. If they get Exum, or Parker or someone they think will be the future of the Jazz, then I think we make the playoffs next year. I think they go out and load up on good vets, put quality players 9 deep and end up around 5 or 6.

If the Jazz take someone like Gordon, or someone that they think isn't a cornerstone, but a building block, then I think they gut the team again, and go for another top 5 pick.
 
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