This franchise doesn't want to win a title

[vj_74]

I seriously doubt having westley matthews over raja bell means we would win a championship.

You would think that people would realie this by now. Surprising that some of them still think that having Wes means infinitely better.

Having Wes means = more luxury tax while still losing in the second round, or at best WCF.

You want to upgrade at SG? Upgrade bigtime. Make a bold trade. Get Jason Richardson, Eric Gordon, Iguodala or somebody like that.

 

[Sloanfeld]

Wow, please, GET OVER WES MATTHEWS ALREADY. He's good, but his numbers are higher due to Roy's injury. Even Aldridge is beasting it in his absence. He wouldn't be getting that many PPG here. Sloan's offense was never built around a player like him, and if you need further clarification of that then you must not be paying attention.

 

[JAZZFAN_2814]

The Lakers won two championships, because their owner Jerry Buss was willing to pay the luxury tax. The Jazz owner? Not so.

The Lakers won two titles off of the corrupt Gasol trade, itself initiated as much by the league office as Buss or his acolytes. Same thing with the Celtics and KG. The interesting subheader is how endogomous both trades were: Jerry West and McHale as sleepercells. Traitors being paid by another owner. Further, dating back to Magic and Kobe, the league has often been comfortable with shady deals that benefited the Lakers.

Still, I wouldn't disagree with the assumption about Jazz ownership. Well, they wouldn't mind winning a championship, much the same way some people dream of someday flying to another solar system. You know?

What I've always found telling is that, as an outlier versus names like Malone, Stock, et cetera, Miller's pride rather than bitterness in relation to Utah's fall to Chicago in the 98 Finals. Not a peep over the officiating, but instead outward pomp that Utah had been there at all.

Compared to someone like Cuban, that's quite the contrast. You could call it class, but Miller in so many other contexts was never concerned with that, particularly when it came to poor-mouthing it over Utah's financial interests or the latest war of words with Karl that would often result from his miserly nature.

The team exists to be stable. Just good enough to be occasionally interesting. The joke is that this is the plan working to perfection, both for Utah and the Jazz as a small market model for the league.

 

[vj_74]

The team exists to be stable. Just good enough to be occasionally interesting. The joke is that this is the plan working to perfection, both for Utah and the Jazz as a small market model for the league.

And Deron is smart enough to have figured it out by now. And he is'nt going to be quite Stockton-like in sticking it out no matter what happens.

 

[memo is money]

Wesley is the same player. He is getting more mins, more chances and his stats are obviously affected positively by this. His efficiency, impact is the same. Get over Wes obsession. This example does not relate your argument of the Jazz FO's not being aggressive enough.

 

[Marty McFly]

Wesley is the same player. He is getting more mins, more chances and his stats are obviously affected positively by this. His efficiency, impact is the same. Get over Wes obsession. This example does not relate your argument of the Jazz FO's not being aggressive enough.

Maybe he is the same player. That still player is still dominating Bell in every aspect of the game. Wes was an awesome player while he was here.

 

[zman1527]

Maybe he is the same player. That still player is still dominating Bell in every aspect of the game. Wes was an awesome player while he was here.

Absolutely. He would be a serious upgrade from Bell. But Bell is just what the Jazz like: a veteran, a tough guy, a Sloan-guy. Talent matters little.

 

[Revolution 9]

We all loved Wes, but it was hard to tell last summer if Wes was worth that deal. I'm always weary of signing a long term deal off of one season.
I wish we had Wes here too, but last summer most of the league thought the deal was too much. He isn't the answer to a title, but like most of you I want
him over Bell. He was a lot easier on the eyes.

 

[Eminem]

Wow, please, GET OVER WES MATTHEWS ALREADY. He's good, but his numbers are higher due to Roy's injury. Even Aldridge is beasting it in his absence. He wouldn't be getting that many PPG here. Sloan's offense was never built around a player like him, and if you need further clarification of that then you must not be paying attention.

AMazing post. I love you. no homo.Someone with a brain and sports knowledge finally.

 

[NUMBERICA]

When Sloanfeld makes more sense than vj_74 and JAZZFAN_2814, something is wrong.

 

[vslice02]

Wesley is the same player. He is getting more mins, more chances and his stats are obviously affected positively by this. His efficiency, impact is the same. Get over Wes obsession. This example does not relate your argument of the Jazz FO's not being aggressive enough.

+1.

 

[Sean]

Some Jazz fans are the dumbest clumps of human flesh I've ever come across.

Utah is swimming against the tide, folks. They've been doing it since the team relocated to Salt Lake City and that's always going to be the way it is because, in the end, the Jazz still play in UTAH.

Wake up and realize building a title contender in one of the smallest markets in the NBA is not something easily done. And don't use the ******** example of San Antonio. San Antonio is NOT Salt Lake City. Texas is NOT Utah. They're only comparable in one way - dumb hicks inhabit both states. That's it.

But at least the Texas hicks have the perception of knowing night life.

Utah is, and will continue to be, one of the hardest states to recruit NBA talent to and the fact the Jazz franchise has stayed relevant for most my lifetime is pretty damn impressive. To compare, teams like Sacramento, Indiana, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Minnesota and Memphis - all roughly larger than Salt Lake, but similar, have been up and down and up and down throughout a similar stretch and absolutely none of those franchises has won a NBA title in the last 30 years.

That isn't a coincidence. And if you want to bring up San Antonio, so be it. But they obviously appear to be the exception to the rule. Because, outside the Spurs, the lowest media market to win a title since 1990 is Miami - and they certainly have more cachet than places like D.C., and Philadelphia, who are larger media markets.

Again, not a coincidence.