Just had a friend get sentenced to two consecutive 1-15 year sentences for hooking up with a minor at a party.
This is pure crap.
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Just had a friend get sentenced to two consecutive 1-15 year sentences for hooking up with a minor at a party.
Ages?
Yeah and circumstances. Were the girls inebriated? I'm assuming he didn't use physical force.
Beantown
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I was on my mission during that time. Sorry you were busy molesting 14 year olds. Your life just gets so much more appealing.
It's a survival instinct.
When I was 13, 14, 15, I had sex with older girls a few times. Was I lucky or molested?
No, not lucky. Maybe not "molested" but certainly taken advantage of. As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, you were in no way, shape, or form ready to become a parent (yes, that's the potential result of sex) and almost certainly did not have the maturity to make a rational decision about the consequences of your action. In short, you were not legally able to consent.
Beantown
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Age doesn't have an explicit license over rational decision making ability. Believe it or not, kids and adults both weigh the consequences of their decisions. The way you're making it sound, everyone under the age of 18 should never be let out of the sight of their caretakers for fear they'll do something rash.
PearlWatson
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If he thinks that, he is right.
Age absolutely matters in mental development and the ability to make rational decisions.
Teens and young 20's ain't exactly famous for weighing the consequences of their decisions. They mostly have a "it won't happen to me" mentality. This is the reason this age group brings about revolution.
Do you have any kids between 13 and 17.999999?
Just wondering what the source of your opinion is.
If children don't have the ability to reason then why do billions of teenage boys abstain from their carnal desires when they're a basically a walking, raging hard on?
Age matters, it is not absolute.
No.
Reason.
I don't think anyone will disagree with that.
MoreFeasts
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So what % of girls got to second base before their 15th birthday?
and what does it matter whether the other person was 16 or 18?
MoreFeasts
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because the billions of girls their age are doing it with guys older then them?
PearlWatson
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They have the ability to reason. Their lack of experience and their underdeveloped brains limit their reasoning power.
"Billions" of teenage boys abstaining is the result of efforts by parents and churches teaching higher-power based morals. Teenagers who believe in a higher power, and have a foundation of a loving family with moral expectations have a reason to abstain, besides "I might get her knocked up or get an std." "Maybe" is not very powerful when libs tell them condom use is "safe sex."
Just curious about how much experience you have watching the decision making process of 13-17 year olds and how they weigh the consequences in their decision making process.
I realize you were a teen once, but there is also the issue of how closely have you seen the teen decision making process, and from how many different situations and scenarios in order to come to your opinion. Have you seen it from nieces/nephews, as a teacher, neighborhood kids? I just was curious about the depth and breadth of your experience in this area to get a feel for your opinion.
While I see teens weigh consequences in their decision making process, I often see the fact that they have a warped view of what the consequences would be based on inexperience, lack of information, or quite often lack of actually weighing any sort of consequences because they just want to do what they want to do without any thought involved. It is a time in life where they are changing so much that they are dealing with physical changes, hormonal changes, peer pressures, media expectations, friends, parents, and what to do with this whole sex issue based on all of that. Even if teens go through their decision making process it often times is based on not enough data, or they are not seeing the whole picture.
I get your point though too, I've seen teens make much better and rational decisions than many adults. I've also seen many adults make terrible decision that had zero thought for the consequences. On the whole though I still don't think 13-17 year olds should be held just as accountable for their decisions as 18-99 year olds and think that generally they are not in a position to make the best decision possible.
There is a reason teens under 18 are held less accountable legally for their choices and it is still considered a crime for someone 18 or over when they have sexual relations with someone younger. There should be some accountability in this case, but 15 years seems excessive especially when the girl is just 18 and was still in school. I would think that the judge would understand that it was consensual and that she was just 18. It is up to 15 years, but I think the verdict will be minimal based on this information. Just my opinion.
MoreFeasts
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I scoff at this supposed magical transformation when one hits one's 18 birthday.