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This jazz team is going to be an absolute abomination.

I think there is a lot of people who will be disappointed this yr. I think this team has talent and athleticism and are better than most other tanking teams. So we will not be a bottom dweller nor a play off contender. We will win some we shouldn't have just because of "try hard effort" personally I am fine with that. I cheer for effort.
 
This is such an odd post. I'm really sorry for coming off as condescending, but are you like new to watching NBA basketball or something? The absolute worst spot a team can be in, particularly a small market team, is mediocre. Do you want to be the Sacramento Kings? You now, pretty sh*tty, but not sh*tty enough to get a premier draft pick, but one somewhere between #9 and #14. Because that's how you "swirl the toilet bowl for a long time".

How you rebuild and succeed is by disassembling your mediocre roster and doing all you can to try to secure a top level draft pick in what is considered the best draft class in 20 years. Which is exactly what the Jazz are doing.
 
I think there is a lot of people who will be disappointed this yr. I think this team has talent and athleticism and are better than most other tanking teams. So we will not be a bottom dweller nor a play off contender. We will win some we shouldn't have just because of "try hard effort" personally I am fine with that. I cheer for effort.

Errrr... youthful athleticism is exciting and fun and stuff, but it doesn't win NBA games. The OKC Thunder Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and Serge Ibaka, who were all significantly more talented and athletic than anybody on this Jazz team. They were also very young. That team went on to win 23 games, and wound up with the 3rd draft pick after that season which became James Harden.

Every tanking team in the league can be described as "talented and athletic". At this point only the Spurs look worse to me than the Jazz. The Jazz's poor 34-year old rookie coach might be super driven to win some games which could be an issue for the tank, but I think the execs will let him know that they won't hold him to the fire if his record sucks. They've given him very little to work with.
 
this jazz team is going to be an absolute ****ing train wreck disaster.....I foresee loss after loss after loss, absolute brick show, and a painful tanking season that we havent witnessed since the likes of the TANK COMMANDER CAPTAIN ALPHA GOD JOHN LUCAS III. I think we're going to be swirling the toilet bowl for a long time.

I hope we arent as good as that john lucas 3 team.


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We have to. Or else we have to intentionally sit some of the players to bring enough L's for a better draft position.
 
I'm concerned we're not going to be bad enough to get a top 5 pick. If we're going to be a lottery team anyway, we need to really go for it and be a bottom 3 team next season.
I think we get there. If Sexton hasn’t made improvements he’s gonna get his but not impact winning a ton.

It honestly depends on if we find a home for Bogey and Mike. Mike doesn’t put up huge stats but he’s a winning player. Bogey is so efficient and consistent it raises the floor every night so if an opponent is bad or we get another good performance then we are in danger of winning that game.

If the main 5 guys on this squad are sexton, Lauri, Beasley, Simone, Vando… I think we are going to be firmly in the bottom 4. OKC has SGA, Giddey, Dort, etc… they won’t be miserable… San Antonio has Poeltl and Keldon still… so they have some winning guys… Houston will be *** still. Orlando has some talent and could jump to 30ish wins… Indiana may not tear stuff down because it isn’t what they do.

As long as we offload Mike and Bogey I think we will get in that bottom 5 pretty easily.
 
I think we get there. If Sexton hasn’t made improvements he’s gonna get his but not impact winning a ton.

It honestly depends on if we find a home for Bogey and Mike. Mike doesn’t put up huge stats but he’s a winning player. Bogey is so efficient and consistent it raises the floor every night so if an opponent is bad or we get another good performance then we are in danger of winning that game.

If the main 5 guys on this squad are sexton, Lauri, Beasley, Simone, Vando… I think we are going to be firmly in the bottom 4. OKC has SGA, Giddey, Dort, etc… they won’t be miserable… San Antonio has Poeltl and Keldon still… so they have some winning guys… Houston will be *** still. Orlando has some talent and could jump to 30ish wins… Indiana may not tear stuff down because it isn’t what they do.

As long as we offload Mike and Bogey I think we will get in that bottom 5 pretty easily.

Yeah, those two are the ones we definitely need to trade. If we do we will be hovering around 20 wins.
 
Yeah, those two are the ones we definitely need to trade. If we do we will be hovering around 20 wins.
I’m wondering if the LA trade becomes Mike, Bogey, Beasley for Russ and Nunn for a pick and a swap.

LA doesn’t want salary but honestly the best way for them to Ky is in a sign and trade. So if Beasley is good and Mike is healthy they can exercise the team option on Malik and trade Mike and Malik plus a pick for Kyrie. If Ky won’t stay they can resign Bogey with bird rights and use the MLE.

When today comes I’m curious what the final iteration looks like.
 
I’m wondering if the LA trade becomes Mike, Bogey, Beasley for Russ and Nunn for a pick and a swap.

LA doesn’t want salary but honestly the best way for them to Ky is in a sign and trade. So if Beasley is good and Mike is healthy they can exercise the team option on Malik and trade Mike and Malik plus a pick for Kyrie. If Ky won’t stay they can resign Bogey with bird rights and use the MLE.

When today comes I’m curious what the final iteration looks like.

That is actually a really good point. Take Conley and Beasley so you can keep them if the Kyrie plan falls through.
 
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