This jazz team is going to be an absolute abomination.

[The Fresh Prince]

I hope we arent as good as that john lucas 3 team.


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On paper we look a lot better than that team.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

weird thread. sucking is the entire point of everything ainge has done this off season.

 

[The Fresh Prince]

REMEMBER,

Memphis won 33 games the year they got the 2nd pick to get Ja Morant. Tanking doesn't grant you the 1st pick in the draft.

 

[str8line]

I look forward to this forum this season. I think it will be more interesting than last year for us.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The league hates tanking tbh. We will probably end around 20-25 wins, at worse. There's a lot of teams playing for VW too, so it's going to be hard to get THAT bad. Like San Antonio Spurs bad.

I think the league doesn't mind tanking as long as it's only a few teams.

 

[TheStormofWar]

Aldridge agrees.

View: https://twitter.com/TheAthleticNBA/status/1567165978298810368?s=20&t=FWkuptgFAFM9BHOAUThNkA

The Skinny: Danny Ainge is not sentimental. It took him about five minutes after taking the Jazz’s top decision-making job to show three-time Defensive Player of the Year Gobert out the door, for five players and control over multiple first-round picks. And Ainge followed that trade up by finally moving Mitchell – though not to the Knicks, as had been rumored and negotiated all summer, but to Cleveland. Beverley never even had a practice in SLC before being re-routed; the likelihood of other vets following him out the door during camp and early in the season is great. It will leave Utah facing a massive restart — but also in a position to, as Ainge did in Boston, rebuild with high lottery picks going forward. After the Mitchell trade, Utah now controls, including its own, an incredible 18 (!!!) first-round picks between 2023 and 2029. The Jazz can get into any trade, in any year between ’23 and ’29, for any player. The immediate impact, though, won’t be pretty, and this exercise grades whether a team is better now than it was at season’s end. Plainly, Utah is not. And with the likely re-routing of more vets, including Bojan Bogdanovic, Mike Conley and others, Hardy is starting with a bad hand. But he’ll have the runway to build the Jazz back up over the coming years.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I do think most are way underrating the Jazz. I don't expect them to be great or anything, but if Will Hardy is good at all we are going to be way more competitive than given credit for.

 

[Jazzman12]

Full on tanking has never been the jazz style. However since management changes things could be different. I’m with you though, cheering for those young guys trying hard it’s a lot more fun.


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This.

I think Jazz fans should be happy with an extremely young team playing with intensity and effort.

I’m not gonna freak out if this team ends up “winning to much” as that should be seen as a really positive sign. Obviously the higher the draft picks, the better but the NBA is littered with examples of bad franchises that are on a hamster wheel. They constantly lose, end up in the top 5 of the draft year after year, yet can’t find a way to get off the wheel.

I think losing is probably the most overrated aspect of tanking in this forum. This rebuild will rise or fall off of how well Ainge leverages his assets to bring in talented players and if he hits on the draft picks that the Jazz end up using.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I do think most are way underrating the Jazz. I don't expect them to be great or anything, but if Will Hardy is good at all we are going to be way more competitive than given credit for.

I think we have two years in the dumps... at least. The plan may be to go quick but the plan is not under their complete control. Exiting the dumps before getting at least one young star talent is a mistake. If the star talent pulls you out of the dumps then you are good to go. If you shortcut it with floor raising FA additions (like NY did) you end up in late lotto purgatory.

I think the plan is to go quick but that is the ideal path that relies on landing something awesome this year or next.

I'll have to take a closer look at the FA market. I would be aggressive in pursuing young FA if there are any with upside. Lock em up long term and like you said... they become amazing values. But that is like a side part of the plan. The biggest part is to land some top tier young talent.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

REMEMBER,

Memphis won 33 games the year they got the 2nd pick to get Ja Morant. Tanking doesn't grant you the 1st pick in the draft.

if your goal is to get the 1st pick, you're going to be disappointed. iow, you don't tank to get the 1st pick, you tank to get a top 5 pick in a draft that appears to be crazy strong at the very top - and you hope next years draft is similarly strong and do it again.

 

[Scramantha]

Actually the Kings have had many #1 and or top 5 picks over the years, they just haven't done anything with them.

False. They have not had any #1 picks. They've had some Top 5s in weak drafts, but mainly float in the #9 - #14 range. You can look this up.

 

[yamers]

I do think most are way underrating the Jazz. I don't expect them to be great or anything, but if Will Hardy is good at all we are going to be way more competitive than given credit for.

won't be anywhere nearly as good as snyder.