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This made me kinda sad today...

The 2016 election polls were crazy wrong were they not? Why is it so hard to believe these studies could be off? What's the difference?

The 2016 polls were not crazy wrong. The only wrong part was when people falsely assumed there would be independence (that is, no relationship) in how people voted in states sharing various characteristics.

In the 2 weeks leading up to the election, 538 consistently gave Trump between 30% and 35% chance of winning. As any experience Titan player can tell you, you do occasionally win with that type of chance.
 
Dont get that abortion just yet. New York just made it so you can wait til that "thing" is full grown. So you have some more time to think about it. Plus its funner when its full grown.

I'm not surprised you opposed abortions to save the mother's life/health, and that you insist mothers carry dead fetuses around inside them, which are the types of abortions the New York law allows after 24 weeks.
 
Why should I have to jump through a bunch of hoops to prove something that is undeniably true? Im not making some shocking claim. Who are these two sides battling each other and why do they seem to always be saying the same things said from certain news outlets and not others? Why do they they defend certain news outlets? Right in your own post you just gave away that you see it too with the Fox News comment. Why are we playing games? Lets just skip past what has been established and work on other things. Fox news leans right. Yes. And pretty much every other big news corporation leans left. Thats just the way it is.

Btw, If you read through this thread I bet you would find I linked more times to CNN and any other leftist site than I did Fox news. I rarely tune into them. I get my news from a built in app on my phone that Google installed. Its called smart news. It just links a bunch of news stories. I click on them regardless of who is publishing. I then go to youtube and listen to independent media to hear different opinions on it. I dont take any journalists at their word anymore. They have destroyed their credibility.

How about we play a game. You post an article's full text involving politics. Just copy the text. Has to be from Fox News or the Huffington Post. Leave off the title and who wrote it. Ill guess which outlet its from.

Of course you would know if it was from Fox news or not. Fox news doesnt just have a bias, they have the dishonest practice of including opinions/propaganda into news stories. Its one thing to have opinion pieces its another to purposely deceive people by mixing the two together. CNN is a crappy news source due to their looking for sensationalism in their articles. But there are plenty of good news organizations. Good reporters maybe lean left or right but know how to report news properly. Any journalist worth anything can report facts and news without putting their opinions into it. But there are plenty of people who lean right that work for every major news outlet.

So you read news and then find peoples opinions on actual news and trust that? Makes sense. I would rather read news, find their sources and get more facts about it and form my own opinion but to each their own.
 
Of course you would know if it was from Fox news or not. Fox news doesnt just have a bias, they have the dishonest practice of including opinions/propaganda into news stories. Its one thing to have opinion pieces its another to purposely deceive people by mixing the two together. CNN is a crappy news source due to their looking for sensationalism in their articles. But there are plenty of good news organizations. Good reporters maybe lean left or right but know how to report news properly. Any journalist worth anything can report facts and news without putting their opinions into it. But there are plenty of people who lean right that work for every major news outlet.

So you read news and then find peoples opinions on actual news and trust that? Makes sense. I would rather read news, find their sources and get more facts about it and form my own opinion but to each their own.

One can argue that bias exists in what stories get picked up. For example, I would read Breitbart back in 2016 to see what they're up to. And they would have a ton of stories about violence against the police. They saw that as a counter to all the stories about police abuse that we see in mainstream media.

Ideological leaning affects what people see as newsworthy.
 
One can argue that bias exists in what stories get picked up. For example, I would read Breitbart back in 2016 to see what they're up to. And they would have a ton of stories about violence against the police. They saw that as a counter to all the stories about police abuse that we see in mainstream media.

Ideological leaning affects what people see as newsworthy.

Those do exist. There can be that based on who is assigning stories.

All of the presidential elections in my life the winner has had more positive and more overall articles written about them. Generally news publishes what people are interested in reading. The more popular candidate usually wins. People definitely point to a liberal bias when a democrat wins the presidency but ignore the fact that news had a conservative bias the years a republican candidate won.

Bias's definitely exist. But acting like its a huge conspiracy and countering that with garbage news with an agenda like fox news and breitbart is just silly.
 
Lulz at Hack disparaging the west and east coasts. The irony.

His disparaging the urban coasts (where most Americans live) as irresponsible and lazy drug dealers is EXACTLY why I say rural America needs to get back in touch with “Real America.” Contrary to what Palin and other right wingers claim, “real America” is best described as where most Americans live and where most of their values are. It’s not some vacant plot of land in North Dakota or Wyoming.

90 percent of America’s social and political problems could be resolved if rural America would get back in touch with the rest of us. Most Americans support women’s rights, believe in science, and value multiculturalism.
 
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