This season will vindicate Ty Corbin

[magic]

We were riggin for wiggins, playin sorry for jabari, hex em for exum, low seed for embiid, etc. Wanting to lose, but being upset with the way we were losing pretty much defines the sentiments of most.

Corbin was not trying to lose though.
Also he was the head coach of the jazz for more than one year.

Last nights game is the best time i have had watching a jazz game in about 4 years.



Edit: Also, while we were rooting for losses to move up in the lottery and aquire a talented player, we were also rooting for losses because we were ready for the corbin era to be over and figured losing alot would also help with that

Oh alright, I assumed that Corbin was trying to lose. I was annoyed he was playing the old players instead of developing the younger players. So perhaps playing the old players was his way of trying to win.

But yeah I totally agree that we needed a new coaching system.

 

[Stifle Tower]

how many teams were calling corbin and trying to get him to be thier next head coach? Not very many. That tends to happen when you have one of the worst offenses and worst defenses in the league while at the same time having more lottery talent than most teams in the league.

Corbin was a very highly-rated assistant. I still think he COULD become a very good NBA coach. Remember, Jerry Sloan was fired from his first job with Chicago. What I think needs to happen is for Ty to work under a variety of coaches. He needs to learn different systems and then implement according to the talent he has if given another chance. Ty's mistake was trying to be Jerry Jr. The game has changed, and he didn't have a Stockton and Malone.

 

[stitches]

What record or objective measurement at the end of the season would you consider a vindication of Corbin? I think a lot of people are mad at Corbin not because of the losing record, but because he started Richard Jefferson and Marvin Williams instead of developing our young core in a season when it was universally accepted that our win-loss record should take a back seat to development and getting a nice pick out of a strong draft class.

 

[GVC]

Corbin immediately blames Kanter for the slow start

Such ****ing nonsense. Negged.

 

[GVC]

he started Richard Jefferson and Marvin Williams instead of developing our young core

Did John Stockton "develop" his first three seasons in the NBA?

 

[fishonjazz]

Corbin was a very highly-rated assistant. I still think he COULD become a very good NBA coach. Remember, Jerry Sloan was fired from his first job with Chicago. What I think needs to happen is for Ty to work under a variety of coaches. He needs to learn different systems and then implement according to the talent he has if given another chance. Ty's mistake was trying to be Jerry Jr. The game has changed, and he didn't have a Stockton and Malone.

You are probably right.
Im definately over critical of corbin, and i admit it,...... my point was mostly just that jazz fans were not the only ones who thought corbin sucked.

 

[GVC]

Thanks for the posrep, Stifle.

 

[fishonjazz]

Did John Stockton "develop" his first three seasons in the NBA?

Were the jazz tanking in those stockton years? Was the head coach told not to worry about wins and losses?

I dont think comparing stocktons first years in the league with last years season is apples to apples. Thats just me though

 

[Stifle Tower]

Such ****ing nonsense. Negged.

Really? I remember a TON of criticism directed at Kanter. And there was very little directed at the PG's. I would think a good coach would have used the scientific method to find the real problem. You know, like having Kanter still starting when Burke and Garrett replaced Tinsley/JLIII. Instead, Kanter became the whipping boy.

Thanks for the neg, though. As mentioned in an earlier thread I return rep in kind. So I've received your neg power of -58 and returned -100 to you. Be happy to continue if you'd like. BTW, are you and franklin related to Ty?

 

[stitches]

Did John Stockton "develop" his first three seasons in the NBA?

John Stockton was backing up all-star Rickey Green in seasons when the Jazz were a playoff team. The question is not whether or not one can develop as a back up - of course they can. The question is when you are not concerned with winning right now, what's the best way to develop your 3d year players? I'd argue playing them and starting them against the best possible competition(against starters) is the clear answer.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Thanks for the posrep, Stifle.

Oops! You got me on that one. Would have noticed later today as I always check who I given rep to lately. I'll neg rep when I can. May have to do it 2x to make up for the mistake.

 

[GVC]

I remember a TON of criticism directed at Kanter.

One link would be a start.

I would think a good coach would have used the scientific method to find the real problem.

Favors-Kanter didn't work early or late in the season. The team played much better with RJ and Marvin in the starting lineup. Bringing Burks and Kanter off the bench gave ample opportunity for all young players to initiate the offense/get touches. Making frequent changes to lineups will almost certainly cause players to second guess themselves and not know how to fit into their roles and lineups. For all his warts, Ty did a pretty good job with lineups last season. As I've posted several times in the past, the way he got so many shots for so many young players is virtually unprecedented in NBA history.