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This season will vindicate Ty Corbin

LogGrad98 said:
I feel like stepping up and reminding you that we are one single miracle shot from fully vindicating Ty Corbin. He might have been the best coach we ever had and we just didn't know how good we had it. This season is going to suck!
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Fully eating crow on this one, and happy to. Thank you Gobert. It has never tasted so good.
 
franklin said:
Utah Jazz: 29th in team defense; no improvement.
Sacramento Kings: 14th in team defense; 9 spot improvement.

I told you what would happen if you gave Corbin a competent group of players.
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Interesting how this has flip-flopped.
 
Ok I'm bored of being bored. Gonna go take a suspiciously long shower.
 
b_line said:
lol, can you imagine Ty coaching this years team? He's thinking "I don't want to play any more damn rookies" then he looks at the bench and realizes he can only play like 5 non rookies. "Trey, Gordon, Derrick, you guys ready for 48 minutes?"
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Kendrick Perkins would be starting (Tyco would have insisted the Jazz not buy him out)...Gobert goes back to getting 15 minutes a game off the bench.
 
Gameface said:
People often say that franklin is saying things he's not saying and completely ignoring what he's actually saying.

I didn't like Corbin. I gave him a long long leash because there were a lot of external factors that contributed to his lack of success. Ultimately I decided he wasn't a good coach (because I'm like qualified to assess such things). But franklin has pointed out things he did do well. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Corbin could have been the wrong guy for the job and still have a few things he did well. People don't want to hear that, though. They want to crucify Corbin and condemn every last thing he ever did. Pretty simple way to look at things, but oh well.
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But he also says things like
The jazz defense didn't improve until kanter was traded.

Then gets proven wrong and changes his argument and never admits he was wrong about anything.
He says Corbin would do better this year with this team, yet says he prefers quin?


He is a dick on this forum plain and simple.
Yet has alot of apologists for some reason.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Group-think is stupid, but to suggest that there's somehow a laurel to be granted for contrarianism strictly because it's contrarianism is half-baked and equally stupid.
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1. I disagree. I think there's always a place for contrary opinions.

2. I don't think your above post is an accurate characterization of Franklin (in general). Does he overstate contrary opinions? Yes. Does he do it to troll? Yes. But he's also usually willing to engage in intelligent, nuanced discussions and support his stated opinions.

3. It's worth defending Franklin because Jazzfanz is better when he's around.


Nate505 said:
That's fine. And in this case he was wrong. Dead wrong. As wrong as one can possibly be wrong. And the idea that he was done sort of innocent guy who didn't dish out his fair share of antagonism is comical.
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1. So what if he is wrong? In the past, he's engaged in plenty of (reasonably) respectful, intelligent basketball discussions. As far as I'm concerned, those discussions are far more valuable than bumped threads that serve no other purpose than to deride people for making bad predictions, idiotic memes, and the (other) ad hominem junk that has become the norm on JF.

2. I never claimed Franklin was an innocent bystander.
 
gregbroncs said:
Perfect Example. For those defending this troll...Please tell me how. He says right in this post we would be better off this year with Corbin over Quin. Completely ignoring that half the players on this team quit on him last year. Claims we would be better off because of continuity but fails to accept that the team quit on Corbin. Hayward is having a banner year because Corbin no longer here. Favors if having his best year on both ends of the floor because Corbin is no longer here. Exum would be rotting away on the bench behind both Burke and Clark if Corbin was here. Because Corbin did not value defensive talent and Exum does not look good on offense.
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You couldn't choose a counterfactual in a more self-serving way. Congrats.
 
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