gregbroncs
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Still doesn't get it. Or is intentionally not getting it. I'm going with intentionally not getting it. He's definitely good at trolling.
This season will vindicate Ty Corbin
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Prophet franklin failed to consider that Quin would be installing a new system, so this win total is being upped to 37. Corbin's baseline would have stayed at 35...
Where are all the naysayers who said this 35 win baseline was ********? And where, specifically, is Bordy to bow before his prophet after harassing him endlessly after his prophecy last year that this team plus off season additions could easily be a 50-50 club this season?
Pray before me and I might exorcise Trey Burke of his demons, and possibly heal Burks shoulder and Wes Matthews achilles too (after he signs on the low low, of course).
Coach Ellis
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Still trolling Frank.
Quin >>>>>Ty.
Don't think Ty will ever be a head coach inthe NBA again, but Quin would be highly in demand if he weren't under contract. The plain and simple fact is that the team regressed under Ty's leadership and has excelled under Quin's. It's time to let it go.
First step is admitting you were wrong. I promise, it's not that hard. As my wife tells me all the time.
Quin >>>>>Ty.
Don't think Ty will ever be a head coach inthe NBA again, but Quin would be highly in demand if he weren't under contract. The plain and simple fact is that the team regressed under Ty's leadership and has excelled under Quin's. It's time to let it go.
First step is admitting you were wrong. I promise, it's not that hard. As my wife tells me all the time.
CAKAR
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But Frank is right in some awkward way. People thought that this was a 50% winning team, totally misused by Corbin. Their was always this Hornacek comparison, how he made PHX a great team, just in one season. Quin is a good coach, but he is no Jeff Hornacek.
I never liked Corbins coaching, but I always will miss Tyrone Corbin and his big body staying on the sideline like a real man. He wanted to win, but he also wanted to look good. And he always looked good...
I never liked Corbins coaching, but I always will miss Tyrone Corbin and his big body staying on the sideline like a real man. He wanted to win, but he also wanted to look good. And he always looked good...
^^^
You miss Ty? Seriously bro? Wow...
You miss Ty? Seriously bro? Wow...
CAKAR
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He was a big dude...
Coach Ellis
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Oh he did look good. Give credit where it's due.
He's just a terrible NBA head coach. DL will never admit it, but that tank season came about because he read Corbin, knew he'd play the vets at the expense of developing the young guys and just let him go right ahead and do it.
Glad the Jazz actually play defense now and have an interesting and improved offensive system. No one guy has to be "the guy" anymore. I like it so much better.
He's just a terrible NBA head coach. DL will never admit it, but that tank season came about because he read Corbin, knew he'd play the vets at the expense of developing the young guys and just let him go right ahead and do it.
Glad the Jazz actually play defense now and have an interesting and improved offensive system. No one guy has to be "the guy" anymore. I like it so much better.
Disagree. He DRESSED well. He did not look good as he was seriously overweight with a disturbing case of man boobage.
Coach Ellis
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I stand corrected. Clarity of language needed.
*Junior high teacher - if you get that ^ refrence.
GVC
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Except this didn't actually happen...The young players got big minutes and big roles last season. Such a tired false narrative. Focusing on X's and O's would make for a stronger argument. Unfortunately, few have the requisite understanding of the game (myself included) to make that argument (Franklin's actually one of the exceptions).
FWIW, while I'm not the least bit upset Ty's gone, and have been more than pleased with the growth of the team under Snyder, I think Ty was put in no-win situations every season in Utah:
2010/11: Deron, Sloan and Phil Johnson all leave. Ty tries to pick up the pieces.
2011/12: Lockout season, little communication with players, no real training camp. Team makes the playoffs.
2012/13: Lame-duck team, with leading vets likely on the way out, and young players waiting for their chance. FO decides not to make moves to usher in the youth movement. Vets (Sap, AJ, DMC) allowed to walk in free agency.
2013/14: Lame-duck season for Ty. No one expecting him to be re-signed, given task to make strides defensively with a team filled with young players who hadn't ever been handed lead roles prior to the season.
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gregbroncs
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And Yet Jefferson was still playing more minutes than deserved despite being terrible and announcing he was on the way out. Ty was supposed to see what we had in the young guys and develop a defensive system. He didn't do either of these things. Quin in half a season has done more (with less mind you) than Ty did in 4 seasons towards developing that defensive identity. All while also putting in an offense that actually passes the eye test of NBA quality.
Getting Traded
Banned
Granted, he inherited a difficult situation, but he was over his head. He was horrible with match-ups, didn't call timeouts at the right time, didn't inspire confidence in the players because he was so unsure of what to do (his play calling was evidence of this), didn't reward players who played well, and did lock down young players on the bench at the expense of vets -- remember all the DNPs Burks got at the beginning of his second year after he had played so well in the Summer League. I could go on and on -- the guy was a horrendous head coach. His tenure with the Jazz and his brief one in Sacramento are evidence of this. Hey, I wish I could be lousy at something and make millions of dollars. No one should feel sorry for Ty. He's got a nice bankroll to keep him in style.