Thread for responding to transphobic comments

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Human gametes are a binary. There is ova and sperm.

Your classification system of gametes is binary, and gamete production does not determine gender.

... boys don't make ova ...

Except for the ones who do.

Self-fertilization in human: having a male embryo without a father - PubMed

Chimeras are the result of fusion of two zygotes to form a single embryo, producing an individual with genetically different kinds of tissue. If the fused zygotes are of different sex, the individual develops both ovarian and testicular tissues. The majority of these people are best reared as...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The religious dogma you are pushing is sick.

Religion involves the supernatural, and my acceptance is of entirely natural phenomena.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Your classification system of gametes is binary, and gamete production does not determine gender.

Gamete production is *THE ONLY* determiner of gender. When planting kiwifruit vines, it is best to plant them with a ratio of one male vine for every 8 female vines. As in humans, the difference between male vines and female vines is the type of gametes they produce. The types of gametes produced is what divides anisogamous organisms like kiwifruit vines and humans into male and female genders.

Religion involves the supernatural, and my acceptance is of entirely natural phenomena.

If you think a boy can be trapped in a girls body or vice versa then you are believing in the supernatural, and the consequence is leading to a rise in self harm in our youth. You are a cheerleader for a nature-denying death cult built atop an ever-growing mound of mutilated and dead kids.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

How does gamete production determine whether one's gender is boy or man?

 

[Al-O-Meter]

How does gamete production determine whether one's gender is boy or man?

Boys and men don't produce ova gametes just as it is in other male organisms. The change in gamete production in boys versus men is called sexual maturation or puberty, and it too is as it is in other male organisms.

How Plants Go Through Puberty

A research team at Freie Universität Berlin discovers genes that regulate plant development and reproduction

www.fu-berlin.de

 

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Gamete production is *THE ONLY* determiner of gender.

People who produce no gametes are genderless? How about people who produce both sperm and ova?

When planting kiwifruit vines, it is best to plant them with a ratio of one male vine for every 8 female vines.

Your confusing sex with gender, and a very uninformed notion of sex at that.

If you think a boy can be trapped in a girls body or vice versa then you are believing in the supernatural, and the consequence is leading to a rise in self harm in our youth.

I think that "trapped in a ____'s body" is a metaphor for a wide range of different experiences. Perhaps you're Kylosian, and that's why you don't understand.

You are a cheerleader for a nature-denying death cult built atop an ever-growing mound of mutilated and dead kids.

Except, it's your view that leads to deaths, and you don't care, as long as your superstitious notions are preserved.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

People who produce no gametes are genderless? How about people who produce both sperm and ova?

People who produce no gametes are neuters, or neutral. Anisogamous organisms that produce ova are female.

Your confusing sex with gender

Gender refers to sex. Kiwifruit vines have a gender. They may not have a 'gender identity', a 'gender expression', or 'gender roles', but they do have a gender because they have a biological sex and gender refers to biological sex. Confusing the impressionable young by telling them they can be something different than their biological sex or biological species by manifesting their imagination is not healthy and has a correlation with increased risks of self harm.

Suicidality Disparities Between Transgender and Cisgender Adolescents

Emerging evidence indicates transgender adolescents (TGAs) exhibit elevated rates of suicidal ideation and attempt compared with cisgender adolescents (CGAs). Less is known about risk among subgroups of TGAs because of limited measures of gender identity ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Boys and men don't produce ova gametes just as it is in other male organisms.

But...

Gamete production is *THE ONLY* determiner of gender.

So according to that definition, boys and girls are the same, since neither produce gametes.

 

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People who produce no gametes are neuters, or neutral.

So you do beliecve there are more than two sexes, after all.

Anisogamous organisms that produce ova are female.

So, you acknowledge that some females make sperm?

Gender refers to sex.

Not in medicine.

Confusing the impressionable young by telling them they can be something different than their biological sex or biological species by manifesting their imagination is not healthy and has a correlation with increased risks of self harm.

Do you think telling kids they are black decreases the risk of suicide, since whites commit suicide at much higher rates?

You made a claim about "telling them", but presented a study which did not record who was told this and who was not. That's a bait-and-switch. If you want to prove your point, find a study where teens who think they are transgender are encouraged or discouraged. Like this one:

Mental Health Outcomes in Transgender and Nonbinary Youths Receiving Gender-Affirming Care

This cohort study investigates whether gender-affirming care is associated with decreased depression, anxiety, and suicidality among transgender and nonbinary youths.

jamanetwork.com

Findings In this prospective cohort of 104 TNB youths aged 13 to 20 years, receipt of gender-affirming care, including puberty blockers and gender-affirming hormones, was associated with 60% lower odds of moderate or severe depression and 73% lower odds of suicidality over a 12-month follow-up.

Almost 3/4 of the suicides prevented by gender-affirming care. Maybe those dead kids don't bother you, though.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Gender refers to sex.

Suicidality Disparities Between Transgender and Cisgender Adolescents

Emerging evidence indicates transgender adolescents (TGAs) exhibit elevated rates of suicidal ideation and attempt compared with cisgender adolescents (CGAs). Less is known about risk among subgroups of TGAs because of limited measures of gender identity ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Sex & Gender | Office of Research on Women's Health

What are Sex & Gender? And why do they matter in health research? Understanding sex and gender is critical to understanding human health and disease. Although “sex” is often incorrectly thought to have the same meaning as “gender,” the terms describe different but connected constructs.

orwh.od.nih.gov

https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00376.2005

Sex and gender within the context of data collected for the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) - Office for National Statistics

This article is designed to help users understand the complexities in reporting sex and gender data for the Sustainable Development Goals.

www.ons.gov.uk

12.2: Foundations of the Anthropology of Gender

Although the terms sex and gender are sometimes used interchangeably and do in fact complement each other, they nonetheless refer to different aspects of what it means to be a …

socialsci.libretexts.org

Gender Sociology: Definition, Roles & Education | StudySmarter

Gender Sociology: ✓ Definition ✓ Roles ✓ Stereotypes ✓ Examples ✓ Education ✓ Perspectives ✓ StudySmarter Original

www.studysmarter.us

Websters Dictionary 1828 - Webster's Dictionary 1828 - Gender

Websters Dictionary 1828 - Webster's Dictionary 1828 - Gender

webstersdictionary1828.com

(number 2 on that chart is as useful as the first definition listed here: ) https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/theory

Silly me, I forgot a biology focused link. https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/what-do-we-mean-by-sex-and-gender/

 

[Jaymz]

I believe the gender is less important than to see if the individual is healthy. What does the blood work say? Are hormones being produced properly?


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[Al-O-Meter]

So according to that definition, boys and girls are the same, since neither produce gametes.

Infant girls are born with hundreds of thousands of gametes they produced while still in the womb. They're called oocytes. Infant boys are male and hence do not have these oocytes. Even at birth, humans are a sexually dimorphic organism. The opinions you've clearly formed out of ignorance, and seem so willing to foist upon anyone who will listen, are doing harm.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Almost 3/4 of the suicides prevented by gender-affirming care. Maybe those dead kids don't bother you, though.

All of the people in that study are dysphoric. The comparison you pointed to was between one group of deluded who believe one gender can become another versus another group of deluded who believe one gender can become another. They didn't compare the deluded to those who recognize the reality of biological sex because the self harm rate in the deluded is higher. The delusion you are pushing on impressionable children is doing harm.