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I honestly wouldn't consider opening a brewpub in Utah with the 4%abv restriction in place.

It's funny, too, because I brew English beer styles most and those are traditionally* around 2.5%abv-5.5%abv, so only a few out of the bunch would even be above 4%abv. But I'm sort of a purist in things I'm passionate about and I wouldn't put my name on a beer that should be 4.3% because that's the best version of that beer if I had to modify it to be 4%abv to satisfy a stupid law.

If I did open a brewpub it would have a wide selection of "real beer" served according to CAMRA standards. This necessitates serving it on draft.

https://www.camra.org.uk/en_US/about-real-ale

*Actually, the strength of beer in the UK has varied considerably over the last several hundred years. Taxes have shaped what we now consider traditional English beer as much as any other factor. Besides taxes, WWI and WWII are the biggest factors in what British beer is today. Specifically, the strength of beer went down once after the start of WWI and then went down again after the start of WWII and never really came back up again.
 
One of the best things about living in Oregon, outside of the forests everywhere and the 100% public beaches, is the beer. So much great beer everywhere.
 
One of the best things about living in Oregon, outside of the forests everywhere and the 100% public beaches, is the beer. So much great beer everywhere.

Oregon does have great beer. I think Utah has got close to catching up over the last few years though. California is still leading the way though for best Beer on the west coast. Colorado and Oregon are right behind them though with Utah getting pretty close. Utah has a lot of breweries and tons more opening and the ones here thrive in spite of some of the laws.
 
Oregon does have great beer. I think Utah has got close to catching up over the last few years though. California is still leading the way though for best Beer on the west coast. Colorado and Oregon are right behind them though with Utah getting pretty close. Utah has a lot of breweries and tons more opening and the ones here thrive in spite of some of the laws.

I completely agree that Utah punches above its weight when it comes to micro breweries. In a lot of ways we have it pretty good.

I think it goes back to something we talked about at the Pub, that for those of us not in the "majority" in this state we a lot of times feel a certain duty to provide a counter-point to the predominate culture here.
 
I think there is a real chance the "3.2" laws will change. But it seems what is being talked about is just moving that limit to 4.8%ABW which comes out to a nice even 6%abv.

While that would capture the vast majority of the market in regard to mass produced beers, I wouldn't be okay with it unless they didn't apply that limit to draft beer.

http://www.sltrib.com/home/5424526-155/utah-lawmakers-pore-over-what-could
 
https://kutv.com/news/local/as-3-st...ns-if-they-want-option-to-buy-high-point-beer

"Walmart is currently asking our customers who already buy 3.2 beer if they would like the option to purchase full-strength beer in grocery and convenience stores, without having to travel to a state-operated liquor store," Walmart Director of Communications Tiffany Wilson told 2News. "We want to ensure that Utahns continue to have a choice on the types of beer they can purchase at their local grocery and convenience stores."

Our larger local breweries are pushing to keep the 4%abv(3.2%abw) limit in stores. They will largely fill the gap created when the mega breweries stop making 4%abv(3.2%abw) beer for us
 
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