THT has opted in

[Saint Cy of JFC]

You missed the memo where the Jazz drafted Keyonte to play the point?

I missed the memo that you can only play 1 guard.

 

[LogGrad98]

i think he’ll be gone by the start of the season, if not then the trade deadline at the latest.

I think our teams taking shape fast with these new draft picks and so I don’t think we’re wanting those that aren’t in our long term plans sticking around too long.

If these new draft picks are implying a shape to our team then it is much closer to a blob of clay than a finished porcelain work of art. Holding onto TNT is giving us more of a finished product than 3 very questionable rookies.

 

[LogGrad98]

This summer, he posted some workout pics.

Are they hawt?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Why? He is 22 and has the requisite size that Danny is looking for.

No one is penciled in at the PG spot. He has a chance and Danny likes his upside.

He was not named in the articles as a building block...

I think he is in our plans... until he isn't. We have some things we need to add in the backcourt and some things we have duplication. If we moved Sexton for like FVV then I think THT as the bench creator/wildcard has some potential. He's a bit too inefficient and unpredictable to be a starter to me... but maybe those edges all smooth out.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Are they hawt?

If you like sweaty man meat. He just had more definition... those things can be a little deceiving but I think he came into camp out of shape last year... its all eye test so maybe not.

 

[The Midnight]

If these new draft picks are implying a shape to our team then it is much closer to a blob of clay than a finished porcelain work of art. Holding onto TNT is giving us more of a finished product than 3 very questionable rookies.

If you see more potential in THT than our rookies then I can’t help you.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

He was not named in the articles as a building block...

I think he is in our plans... until he isn't. We have some things we need to add in the backcourt and some things we have duplication. If we moved Sexton for like FVV then I think THT as the bench creator/wildcard has some potential. He's a bit too inefficient and unpredictable to be a starter to me... but maybe those edges all smooth out.

He's on a 1 year unrestricted deal, of course he still has to prove it.

 

[LogGrad98]

If you see more potential in THT than our rookies then I can’t help you.

Oh I see tons of potential in blobs of clay. You said the rookies make us much closer to a finished product, which just isn't true. Potential only matters if it becomes real. That said you really think Keyonte or whoever we took at 28 are going to be better than THT? Based on what exactly? You do know statistically the odds are very very much against you right? Even Hendricks, who statistically again has a much better chance of being an NBA starter than either of the other 2 still has a statistically much lower chance of being better than THT. So yeah the potential is there, and how many players have made millions on potential and never once had even a hint at being as good as THT already is. The answer would be most players that enter the NBA, by the way.

So if you are so pie in the sky that you can't see what you have right in front of you because you're hoping to win the lottery, then I can't help you.

And by the way, we could have made much more use of either of the later 2 licks, or all 3 of those picks, on the draft this year as trade capital, than we ever would with a measley 11 mil to sign someone. So really the F-up here was drafting 3 players to begin with. Believe me, 5 years down the road not a single person will be saying "if only THT had opted out for that one season we would have 4 rings by now", but there are more than even odds we will be saying "why did we use all 3 of those picks instead of trading them for player X".

 

[Coach Ellis]

He was not named in the articles as a building block...

I think he is in our plans... until he isn't. We have some things we need to add in the backcourt and some things we have duplication. If we moved Sexton for like FVV then I think THT as the bench creator/wildcard has some potential. He's a bit too inefficient and unpredictable to be a starter to me... but maybe those edges all smooth out.

Bench creator / wildcard / defensive pest are all good roles that need to be filled. I think the Jazz are likely to turn the keys over to Keyonte George at some point this season and will keep THT over Dunn - unless Trader Danny gets an offer he can’t refuse.

 

[The Midnight]

Oh I see tons of potential in blobs of clay. You said the rookies make us much closer to a finished product, which just isn't true. Potential only matters if it becomes real. That said you really think Keyonte or whoever we took at 28 are going to be better than THT? Based on what exactly? You do know statistically the odds are very very much against you right? Even Hendricks, who statistically again has a much better chance of being an NBA starter than either of the other 2 still has a statistically much lower chance of being better than THT. So yeah the potential is there, and how many players have made millions on potential and never once had even a hint at being as good as THT already is. The answer would be most players that enter the NBA, by the way.

So if you are so pie in the sky that you can't see what you have right in front of you because you're hoping to win the lottery, then I can't help you.

And by the way, we could have made much more use of either of the later 2 licks, or all 3 of those picks, on the draft this year as trade capital, than we ever would with a measley 11 mil to sign someone. So really the F-up here was drafting 3 players to begin with. Believe me, 5 years down the road not a single person will be saying "if only THT had opted out for that one season we would have 4 rings by now", but there are more than even odds we will be saying "why did we use all 3 of those picks instead of trading them for player X".

I see your point but still our views differ.

Im recent years smaller markets such as Milwaukee and Denver have won the Chip based largely on home grown talents.

Moreover with the new CBA, I see much more emphasis on identifying and drafting quality players who we could keep on cheaper rookie deals.

Sure, you can trade for a superstar to play next to Lauri if a deal is there to be had.

But those deals are few and far between. And requires luck and opportunity, some of which you can’t control.

In the meantime though I think the approach we’re taking of developing our own talent is a good one.

 

[LogGrad98]

Im recent years smaller markets such as Milwaukee and Denver have won the Chip based largely on home grown talents.

Really they both won it because they won the ultimate player lottery and lucked into a couple of all-world players. Again luck has a lot to do with it. I doubt that Jokic or Giannis would be scrubs somewhere else. They would still have been great. Championships are won through luck in the draft, or smart roster building, and mostly both. We had 2 fantastic players, so we had the luck in the draft before, but we sucked at roster building so we blew it all up. Now we brought in the roster building guru in the hopes that he can build the right roster. But odds are very much against any of the 3 we drafted this year becoming the next Giannis. So hopefully Danny can pull a rabbit out of his hat.

 

[The Midnight]

Really they both won it because they won the ultimate player lottery and lucked into a couple of all-world players. Again luck has a lot to do with it. I doubt that Jokic or Giannis would be scrubs somewhere else. They would still have been great. Championships are won through luck in the draft, or smart roster building, and mostly both. We had 2 fantastic players, so we had the luck in the draft before, but we sucked at roster building so we blew it all up. Now we brought in the roster building guru in the hopes that he can build the right roster. But odds are very much against any of the 3 we drafted this year becoming the next Giannis. So hopefully Danny can pull a rabbit out of his hat.

Well we already have a good one in Lauri.

Out of the 3 Hendricks has a high floor and moderate ceiling. He could be solid.

Keyonte to me has potentially a very high ceiling.

Im happy with who we got but time will tell.

Im bullish.