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THT Shooting Woes Continue

Rookie getting the start. I had suggest moving Ochai in to small forward and dropping Lauri to the 4.

I'm fine with misses it's just turnovers I can't take. THT is talented just not feeling him as a starting PG
 
So… this is getting really bad. Now bottom 5 in the league by many shooting metrics.

In a related note I don’t want Josh Giddey the player… he pops up as just so similar that even if he wasn’t out hanging with high schoolers I wouldn’t want him.
 
I haven't checked advanced stats, but when he is wide open on a catch and shoot I think his percentages are a bit more reasonable. A professional basketball player shooting a wide open three should not have the ball entirely miss the rim. THT has done it multiple times this season. And for every good play he makes a horrible one (like the reckless drive in the lane with a horribly missed layup that turned into a quick 2 in transition for NO. So not only did he not score, it resulted in a potential 4 point swing. That tends to happen a lot with him. Just a low BBIQ.
 
TheGoldStandard said:
I haven't checked advanced stats, but when he is wide open on a catch and shoot I think his percentages are a bit more reasonable. A professional basketball player shooting a wide open three should not have the ball entirely miss the rim. THT has done it multiple times this season. And for every good play he makes a horrible one (like the reckless drive in the lane with a horribly missed layup that turned into a quick 2 in transition for NO. So not only did he not score, it resulted in a potential 4 point swing. That tends to happen a lot with him. Just a low BBIQ.
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I can handle a reckless drive here or there… it’s the pull-up three with like 18 seconds on the clock that drives me crazy. Just an unnecessary bonehead move.
 
Can we bring in Sensabaugh now?

We could play 3 seven footers pretty much the entire game.

Start Kessler, Lauri, and Collins. Bring in Yurtz7 and the Clinic for bench, Fontecchio in small forward bench minutes, with Keyonte and Agbaji starting, Clarkson, Sexton and Sensabaugh off the bench at guard... looking to upgrade Sexton asap.

Heck, Fontecchio I bet could be pretty decent at the 2 as well. That dude needs minutes.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I can handle a reckless drive here or there… it’s the pull-up three with like 18 seconds on the clock that drives me crazy. Just an unnecessary bonehead move.
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Basically any jumper from him makes me cringe. The problem with reckless drives is it puts a perimeter player (one of the first to get back on D) out of position, leading to easy transition points for the other team. The most impressive thing about Keyonte's poster was how fast he got back on defense. He has a good motor.
 
The more and more I try to analyze THT and how he could turn into a contributor I draw blanks as to what role he could fill.

Defense:
He is decent. His biggest issue is he cannot guard on-ball close to the skin as his first step lateral quickness and footwork just isnt good enough and he gets burned even by some mid guards. His recovery is ok but you cannot really play defense just chasing guys all day. He can poke the ball with those long arms, but if you cant play close to the skin you wont get many chances to do that. He also has to go under screens as he just dies and disintegrates when trying to go over them. Whenever he sees a screen coming he blocks the ball carrier from using the screen and gives free lanes towards the help defense which is not optimal, good recovery and chase down or not. So essentially for him to be good, he has to defend off ball where he does have the wingspan to get in passing lanes, contest shots and swipe balls when someone drives to his side.

Offense:
This is where the real issues come in. His skillset makes no sense in modern NBA. He cannot catch and shoot at the rate required for an NBA player so he has to play an on-ball role. But on-ball his handles are not NBA level for either a lead guard or a 2 guard. He can pass, but he cannot finish with efficiency from any level so he cannot really be a slasher either. He also doesnt draw nearly enough free throws. So if he isnt on the ball, he destroys spacing. If he is on the ball, he is a turnover or missed shot waiting to happen unless he passes the ball. And as a pure playmaker or passer he falls far short of what you would need from a guy like that. His lobs are too often wildly off the mark and he doesnt have a deep bag of efficient passes or advanced reads.

So as a summary he isnt good enough to be categorized as a defensive specialist and he cannot really play off the ball on offense. So what is he? Maybe some new role title needed here.

Dribble and pass help defense specialist? Do we need one of these really?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
That's so crazy. The PG touches the ball the most? Wow. You're really doing the important work here.
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The majority of guys he named aren’t point guards. They’re players who should have the ball in their hands quite often because they’re real NBA players.
 
HermanG said:
The more and more I try to analyze THT and how he could turn into a contributor I draw blanks as to what role he could fill.

Defense:
He is decent. His biggest issue is he cannot guard on-ball close to the skin as his first step lateral quickness and footwork just isnt good enough and he gets burned even by some mid guards. His recovery is ok but you cannot really play defense just chasing guys all day. He can poke the ball with those long arms, but if you cant play close to the skin you wont get many chances to do that. He also has to go under screens as he just dies and disintegrates when trying to go over them. Whenever he sees a screen coming he blocks the ball carrier from using the screen and gives free lanes towards the help defense which is not optimal, good recovery and chase down or not. So essentially for him to be good, he has to defend off ball where he does have the wingspan to get in passing lanes, contest shots and swipe balls when someone drives to his side.

Offense:
This is where the real issues come in. His skillset makes no sense in modern NBA. He cannot catch and shoot at the rate required for an NBA player so he has to play an on-ball role. But on-ball his handles are not NBA level for either a lead guard or a 2 guard. He can pass, but he cannot finish with efficiency from any level so he cannot really be a slasher either. He also doesnt draw nearly enough free throws. So if he isnt on the ball, he destroys spacing. If he is on the ball, he is a turnover or missed shot waiting to happen unless he passes the ball. And as a pure playmaker or passer he falls far short of what you would need from a guy like that. His lobs are too often wildly off the mark and he doesnt have a deep bag of efficient passes or advanced reads.

So as a summary he isnt good enough to be categorized as a defensive specialist and he cannot really play off the ball on offense. So what is he? Maybe some new role title needed here.

Dribble and pass help defense specialist? Do we need one of these really?
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He's a great switch defender. You don't want him on primary screen users. Excellent on helpside as well
 
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