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Tibor Pleiss assigned to Idaho Stampede

NUMBERICA said:
You mean the piece that pried Jackson away in the first place? Uhh, I don't know, maybe Reggie ****ing Jackson?
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That would have been perfect for the Jazz -- Disgruntled Jackson takes minutes away from Exum for the rest of the season and then we don't match his max deal. That would have helped us an awful lot.
 
silesian said:
That would have been perfect for the Jazz -- Disgruntled Jackson takes minutes away from Exum for the rest of the season and then we don't match his max deal. That would have helped us an awful lot.
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Reggie Jackson wanted to be a starter. Based on his play since the trade, I have no doubt that he'd have stepped into that role with Exum and Burke coming in off the bench. Just because he was disgruntled in OKC doesn't mean he'd have the same attitude towards Utah - in fact, based on his reaction to the trade, I think he'd have been ecstatic for the opportunity. And if he came in to Utah and played like he did for Detroit, the Jazz would have found a way to make it work - either by letting him play out his QO, extending him like Detroit did or matching his contract offer in free agency. Its not like they really came out ahead except that they didn't have Kanter anymore. Again, I'd suggest that Detroit is pretty damn happy with how it worked out. I think the Jazz would have been also if they had just cut the Pistons out of the equation.
 
silesian said:
Dubious at best
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Fair enough. The Pistons threw a max at him. Let's assume that he plays well enough to get the 4 year max offer like Hayward did with a 4th year player option. I'm not certain that is the case, but at that point he's playing like a solid starter on a playoff team. I'm pretty sure you match the offer and feel good about things moving forward.
 
Jazz4ever said:
He would have just played his qualifying offer out if we didn't max him. Just like Kanter would have done if OKC didn't max. Their agents are well aware of the cap spike.
So unless you want Jackson at the max, its a dead end trade.
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You mean like what the Jazz actually got, only there was no real upside to what the Jazz "got" in the actual deal?
 
silesian said:
That would have been perfect for the Jazz -- Disgruntled Jackson takes minutes away from Exum for the rest of the season and then we don't match his max deal. That would have helped us an awful lot.
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You're right, the Jazz obviously have too much talent. Championship is in the mail.
 
Ellis269 said:
This. ^^^

Blown opportunity. They should have done a disgruntled player swap - Kanter for Jackson and then gone into the offseason looking to match. Jackson's cap hold was $5.5 million and I doubt that he would have gotten a huge offer as a RFA. Even with Dante and Burke in the fold, it would have been a good move.
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At the very least we should have gotten the rights to Alex Abrines instead of Pleiss. Having a great game today.
 
I just watched Panathinaikos - Barcelona in Euroleague...Abrinas had 21 points...he is a good shooter! Pity the Jazz didn't take his rights from OKC instead of taking Pleiss.
 
Diamond77 said:
I just watched Panathinaikos - Barcelona in Euroleague...Abrinas had 21 points...he is a good shooter! Pity the Jazz didn't take his rights from OKC instead of taking Pleiss.
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I believe they tried. Okc loves him.
 
NUMBERICA said:
You're right, the Jazz obviously have too much talent. Championship is in the mail.
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Complete fabrication. Nowhere stated or implied.

Surely you understand that it is not only about talent but also about the price of that talent versus how you would otherwise use the cap room.

Surely you see that a max contract on Jackson is debatable and how it would constrain the Jazz future personnel moves.
 
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