Time to Tank

[Jack Strop]

The lottery odds changed this year bud. You dont have to be the worst to have a good shot this year.

Yes, I know they did, including the addition of the 4th pick as part of the lottery. Still, the talk about Zion is just silly. The Jazz likely could finish no higher than 5th (and to accomplish that feat would likely require major injuries). They're still much better than Phoenix, Cleveland, Chicago and Atlanta. And even if their struggles continued, they'll probably still finish ahead of a handful of teams: let's say New York, Washington, Brooklyn, maybe Dallas and Utah all fight it out for the 5-10 seeds. So put Utah in the middle. What are the odds the 7th worst team gets the #1 pick?

You know the worst part of this whole mess? Lindsey will again be reluctant to include the Jazz' pick in a trade because it's looking like a lottery pick. So we're in the Mirotic situation all over again. Dennis "Do Nothing" will likely turn down some good trade opportunities unless the Jazz turn it around and are looking like a solid playoff team.

 

[LoPo]

Quin and Lindsey would still probably start Favors if we drafted Zion.

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[Maneesh]

For me it it so sad. Jazz 2 time get top 5 pick in past 10 year and end up with crazy person Kanter and weakly exum. This is jazz problems. No luck in top 5. Lucky we can find it honey and hero Mitchell. So sad we can’t be bad when good players are top 5.

 

[LogGrad98]

I enjoy watching the league. We weren't going to win the chip this year, so it's fine to be a work in progress.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Right now, we're getting open shots for Rubio and Crowder and they're shooting in the 20% range. I don't know if that's fixable.

Actually the definition of insanity is

in·san·i·ty
/inˈsanədē/
noun

1. the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.
   "he suffered from bouts of insanity"
   synonyms: mental illness, madness, dementia; More
   • extreme foolishness or irrationality.
     plural noun: insanities
     "it might be pure insanity to take this loan"
     synonyms: folly, foolishness, madness, idiocy, stupidity, lunacy, silliness;
     informalcraziness
     "it would be insanity to take this loan"

However it does fit the 2nd definition to do the same thing over and over expecting different results.

So in a nutshell, GO TANK!

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The time to tank was last year, not this year. We had the perfect cover with Gobert's multiple injuries. We could have easily just kept him sidelined until the end of the season and sold out all the pieces that won't be part of the future of the Jazz but for good or bad that didn't happen. Now like others have said here tanking is close to impossible, unless Gobert suffers another injury that can sideline him for several months. We are not great right now, but we are also not horrible and Gobert will win us some games as long as he's on the floor.

Last year the tank pool was too crowded though... some serious tank efforts. Although swapping Grayson for SGA or Miles bridges would be nice even if we hadn’t gone full tank.

We are at full strength and sucking ***... if the DM injury lingers a week or two and December gets us we are in the late lotto. If we have another key injury (Ingles or Rudy) we are mid/late lotto. Odds for 7-9 are now okayish at jumping in top 4. It’s the new tank. Don’t have to be bottom five just bottom 10 and lucky.

I want DL and the Jazz to sit in their filth a little so they can know what passing on good opportunities feels like... we clearly don’t make changes until it’s way past due... so let’s see the Ricky Rudy Favs lineup all damn year.

Sadly free agency will end up being a bust but we will hopefully land a difference maker in the lotto. Just don’t take a 10 year project like Exum this time.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If we’re tanking, might as well trade Ingles to see what we can get and so he doesn’t waste his remaining years playing for a loser.

I can’t get behind any strategy that includes trading Joe... I know we won’t because DL can’t ever let go of any of our guys.

 

[Jazzta]

For me it it so sad. Jazz 2 time get top 5 pick in past 10 year and end up with crazy person Kanter and weakly exum. This is jazz problems. No luck in top 5. Lucky we can find it honey and hero Mitchell. So sad we can’t be bad when good players are top 5.

Dis the truth.

 

[Alfalfa]

Last year the tank pool was too crowded though... some serious tank efforts. Although swapping Grayson for SGA or Miles bridges would be nice even if we hadn’t gone full tank.

We are at full strength and sucking ***... if the DM injury lingers a week or two and December gets us we are in the late lotto. If we have another key injury (Ingles or Rudy) we are mid/late lotto. Odds for 7-9 are now okayish at jumping in top 4. It’s the new tank. Don’t have to be bottom five just bottom 10 and lucky.

I want DL and the Jazz to sit in their filth a little so they can know what passing on good opportunities feels like... we clearly don’t make changes until it’s way past due... so let’s see the Ricky Rudy Favs lineup all damn year.

Sadly free agency will end up being a bust but we will hopefully land a difference maker in the lotto. Just don’t take a 10 year project like Exum this time.

I doubt Gobert would be happy spending his prime on a losing team. We need to aggressively pursue a trade.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Last year the tank pool was too crowded though... some serious tank efforts. Although swapping Grayson for SGA or Miles bridges would be nice even if we hadn’t gone full tank.

We are at full strength and sucking ***... if the DM injury lingers a week or two and December gets us we are in the late lotto. If we have another key injury (Ingles or Rudy) we are mid/late lotto. Odds for 7-9 are now okayish at jumping in top 4. It’s the new tank. Don’t have to be bottom five just bottom 10 and lucky.

I want DL and the Jazz to sit in their filth a little so they can know what passing on good opportunities feels like... we clearly don’t make changes until it’s way past due... so let’s see the Ricky Rudy Favs lineup all damn year.

Sadly free agency will end up being a bust but we will hopefully land a difference maker in the lotto. Just don’t take a 10 year project like Exum this time.

This post is 100% fire.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I doubt Gobert would be happy spending his prime on a losing team. We need to aggressively pursue a trade.

Then he should ****ing play harder.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I doubt Gobert would be happy spending his prime on a losing team. We need to aggressively pursue a trade.

He’s part of the big issue. His defense at the rim hasn’t been nearly what it was last year. No logical explanation for it other than it’s hard and he doesn’t want to do it every night. Our defense is built on funneling everything to Rudy and having him deal with dudes. This year he’s been average... he has to be amazing for it to work. He can be amazing he just hasn’t.

 

[Kyoto]

Then he should ****ing play harder.

I dont think its Goberts problem, well not one that he can fix. Teams are shooting from outside and he cant defend the perimeter. He cant help being 7'2"

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