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[Hantlers]

I've never understood this thought-process, tbh.

It always kinda startles me when those that are so deeply-entrenched in their faith, are scared to read the doctrines of other sects of their religions, or other religions altogether.


I own a copy of the New Testament, and I have read it before. It has done nothing to weaken my faith-- if anything, it has strengthened it (added bonus that my religion endorses reading other books of Abrahamic origin).

I understand that you're comfortable, but it's not-like b_line is knocking on your door, at an inopportune time. It's a friggin internet link for crying out-loud.


For the record b_line, I checked out the link you posted, and it's cool. I think the heavy endorsement of family, and community-cohesion of the Mormon faith is the biggest reason as to why it has any members as it does. Though the community-cohesion aspect can have its down-sides, but I do appreciate how much importance it places on the family.

I actually did look at it. It's the same stuff that pretty much any church puts out in regards to marriage. Again, I didn't want to sound rude, but I've heard all that before. I come from a very, very close family...it's really not something I'm too worried about. I'm not scared of being converted to Mormonism bud, and while I may not know a lot about it, I have studied their main theology and read parts of the BoM.

Perhaps you shouldn't assume so much, young Dala.

 

[Deleted member 848]

I actually did look at it.

Then why would you say "No thanks, I'm good"? He didn't ask you to convert-- he just asked you to read it.

It's the same stuff that pretty much any church puts out in regards to marriage. Again, I didn't want to sound rude, but I've heard all that before. I come from a very, very close family...it's really not something I'm too worried about. I'm not scared of being converted to Mormonism bud, and while I may not know a lot about it, I have studied their main theology and read parts of the BoM.

Perhaps you shouldn't assume so much, young Dala.

Perhaps you should adopt better communication skills, young Hantlers. Saying "no thanks, I'm good" is a lot different than the words you just typed up in this post.

 

[Hantlers]

Why can't it do both?

Again, I just don't see why a church feels the need to marry off its congregation. Being married doesn't make it easier to get to Heaven, honestly, it probably makes it harder. Of course it also allows us to see how Christ is the groom and the church is the bride.

I guess what I'm saying is that while marriage is good and should be encouraged to the right people, I just don't think that a church should be pushing their members to get married. Plus I don't like the idea of only single people hanging out and only married people hanging out...both sides can and should learn a lot from each other. I just look at the Bible and see people like Paul roughly insinuating this isn't the best idea. Just my thoughts though.

 

[Hantlers]

Then why would you say "No thanks, I'm good"? He didn't ask you to convert-- he just asked you to read it.




Perhaps you should adopt better communication skills, young Hantlers. Saying "no thanks, I'm good" is a lot different than the words you just typed up in this post.

Looked at it afterwards cause I was curious. What can I say, I'm a sap for knowledge.


Sometimes being brief is better than writing a paragraph. That is all.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Why can't it do both?

It can obviously do both-- but I think the question is: why does it have to do both? From this aspect, I would agree with Hantlers, actually. Not sure how my faith unanimously feels on the subject, but I would imagine that God could have his sons/daughters be exemplary human beings without the need of getting married, and perpetuating offspring. Just my opinion, and I understand why some would disagree.

 

[LogGrad98]

A core tenet of the LDS faith is that marriage, or being sealed, for time and all eternity, is a required ordinance or sacrament if you will, fully as necessary as baptism, to rise to the highest glory that can be attained in the hereafter. This is one reason for the LDS practice of performing these ordinances for those who did not receive them in life.

 

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Combining church and dating - two of the more expensive investments you will ever make. That sounds stressful

 

[TroutBum]

I've never understood this thought-process, tbh.

My thoughts exactly. I've easily read 10x the literature about other religions versus Mormon text and doctrine. Like Dal-Pal said, it has done nothing more than add to my own faith and made me a better, more understanding person.

It can obviously do both-- but I think the question is: why does it have to do both? From this aspect, I would agree with Hantlers, actually. Not sure how my faith unanimously feels on the subject, but I would imagine that God could have his sons/daughters be exemplary human beings without the need of getting married, and perpetuating offspring. Just my opinion, and I understand why some would disagree.

I think if you guys were in Utah and actually attended one of these travesties, you'd realize that that's not what is really going on. There isn't a special class or sacrament for the singles wards. There are no rules that say certain people can't attend. They do the exact same things as any other ward, but for some reason, someone thought it would be a good idea to get the young people together. I think it's horridly dumb.

A core tenet of the LDS faith is that marriage, or being sealed, for time and all eternity, is a required ordinance or sacrament if you will, fully as necessary as baptism, to rise to the highest glory that can be attained in the hereafter. This is one reason for the LDS practice of performing these ordinances for those who did not receive them in life.

I have issue with this, tbh. I know a bunch of amazing people, who live much more exemplary lives than most of the people I know, who put God and their faith above just about anything, and they are not, and likely never will be married. Are you trying to tell me that they won't make the highest degree of glory because of that? Pffft.

 

[LogGrad98]

I have issue with this, tbh. I know a bunch of amazing people, who live much more exemplary lives than most of the people I know, who put God and their faith above just about anything, and they are not, and likely never will be married. Are you trying to tell me that they won't make the highest degree of glory because of that? Pffft.

No, the doctrine states they will have that opportunity in the hereafter. There are plenty of fantastic people married currently to tools like you and me, and it isn't fair for them to be hitched forever to a chromosomally-challenged jackwagon.

 

[TroutBum]

No, the doctrine states they will have that opportunity in the hereafter. There are plenty of fantastic people married currently to tools like you and me, and it isn't fair for them to be hitched forever to a chromosomally-challenged jackwagon.

I agree. I thought you were saying that people who don't get married down here won't ever get into heaven. That aggression won't stand, man.

 

[Hantlers]

A core tenet of the LDS faith is that marriage, or being sealed, for time and all eternity, is a required ordinance or sacrament if you will, fully as necessary as baptism, to rise to the highest glory that can be attained in the hereafter. This is one reason for the LDS practice of performing these ordinances for those who did not receive them in life.

I would be curious what the LDS church thinks of Paul's statements on marriage. Their stance and the Bible's stance seems to be fairly contradictory towards marriage.

 

[b_line]

I would be curious what the LDS church thinks of Paul's statements on marriage. Their stance and the Bible's stance seems to be fairly contradictory towards marriage.

It all depends on your interpretation of the bible. But if you are curious about what we believe about Paul, then the lds articles of faith are a good place to start.

We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul-We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

https://mormon.org/beliefs/articles-of-faith