I somehow have a feeling AK is going to the Lakers.
To the AK haters
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I don't know if they can survive having two of the most talented players that hardly sniffed their absolutely elite and special potential because they aren't professionals.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
This.
Both Paul and Williams turned out to be cut from the same cloth. They're both narcissists and want recognition in major markets. "Coach Killer" at least gave us some pretty good seasons and didn't voice his displeasure publicly. Unfortunately, neither Sloan nor O'Connor saw his of level of dissatisfaction and frustration as particularly alarming. Again, because Deron did not place himself on the marlet by demanding a trade, KOC was able to get quite a bit for him; he didn't have to desperately sell Williams for BO.
Slow down.
JAZZFAN_2814
Active Member
Agree with the rest of what you're saying, but blaming Chris Paul for destroying the Hornets? The biggest problem for NO appears to be one of mass-apathy. Mr. Hagiography can't even get over 12,000 locals into the arena consistently. To say he destroyed that franchise is to give him too much credit.
Is he an arguable team-wrecker, rather than leader? Well, now the Deron comparison starts to work, doesn't it?
That team's problems are location, location, location. If anything, Chris Paul's Market concerns are shrewd, and understandable after playing for a team that no one cares about.
And the coda for all this is simply the players reacting to the NBA's manipulations in LA and Boston. Or, rather, for those franchises back in 07/08.
LeBron-as-scapegoat is typical of media analysis of Big Business, and the recursive nature of it: always blaming effect while pretending there is no cause.
Everything from the New Orleans financial pit (numbers which match up nearly perfectly with the NBA's recent document-drops/press conference filler on aggregate losses) -- that the NBA now owns -- to the superteam trend being pursued by players, is actually the result of Stern's corruption.
If there was a mistake in not drafting Paul over Williams it wasn't skillset value or loyalty, but rather simple ability to lead: Deron appears to have none.
But one of the reasons Utah appeared to want the trade at all was simply an implicit acknowledgement of Deron's standard: they were not going to retain or build a roster that was contending.
So I agree that the Deron hatred -- coming from many of the people that supported him even after the Sloan coup -- is unwarranted in this context.
And there's the real epitaph-as-coda: Kirilenko is less-hated than Deron, was in some ways more valued by Jazz brass, and outlasted Sloan, Deron and Boozer. In other words, this thread is the type of world upside-down drivel that any committed Marxist, Russian or AK "fan" could be proud of.
NAOS
Well-Known Member
This guy is hilarious.
JAZZFAN_2814
Active Member
A great compliment, coming from a clown.
MVP
Well-Known Member
I do not know how it would have been but I do have a feeling that if Jazz had Paul and not Williams, we would have better chances of beating Lakers in those 3 years. I do believe as well that Paul would have loved playing in Utah with crazy fan support - it is quite different compared to NO, especially during playoffs. At the end of the day I think Paul is better PG then Williams, so drafting him would be no brainer right? But Jazz always draft "to fit" the system.... and thats why we fail all the time as system can't beat talent. Maybe now when Sloan is gone things will change, need to wait and see.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
Says the guy with a pic of the chick from the mediocre TRON: Legacy.
candrew
Well-Known Member
If he's able to rebound over Odom, Gasol and Bynum I may agree with you.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
That's why? Who did we pass up who would've gotten us to the next level? Last time I checked, Paul, like Williams, has no rings.