Tobias Harris wants to come to utah

[Jingled]

And the Jazz said no according to him?

According to Tony Jones the Jazz weren't willing to include a first round pick and that's why the deal never happened.

 

[infection]

What I would like to know is how do you know there wasnt anyone talking to Favors last year? And how do you know he was in trade talks the last 3 years? Cause you read it on the internets? Or are you some kind of psychic that knows all? You sound like you have insider knowledge. Tell us who you really are?

Tony Jones, Tony Jones, and Tony Jones. Same reason why we’re currently talking about Harris.

Regardless, you all are significantly missing the point of the question by intentionally getting lost on the nuance of each point. I am not definitively saying Harris is better, or that the value around the league is what the smoke says. I’m simply stating that all that smoke, all that smoke saying how Harris is valued, and all that lack of smoke defining Favors’ value, that the smoke shouldn’t define our decisions but it should absolutely give us cause to ask questions. People immediately jumping on the defensive to argue that the smoke doesn’t significantly favor a much larger perceived value around the league for Harris over Favors are being completely disingenuous, willfully ignorant, or both.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Lineup data suggest that we were better with Joe Johnson and Gobert on the floor together when Johnson was here than Gobert and Favors. Johnson wasn't any good on D but our defense was still fine when he was on the floor and our offense was much better. And Tobias is much better than Johnson was at that stage of his career.

Are you talking about the year when Favors was injured for basically the entirety of it?

 

[Ron Mexico]

Tony Jones, Tony Jones, and Tony Jones. Same reason why we’re currently talking about Harris.

Regardless, you all are significantly missing the point of the question by intentionally getting lost on the nuance of each point. I am not definitively saying Harris is better, or that the value around the league is what the smoke says. I’m simply stating that all that smoke, all that smoke saying how Harris is valued, and all that lack of smoke defining Favors’ value, that the smoke shouldn’t define our decisions but it should absolutely give us cause to ask questions. People immediately jumping on the defensive to argue that the smoke doesn’t significantly favor a much larger perceived value around the league for Harris over Favors are being completely disingenuous, willfully ignorant, or both.

I would value Harris over Favors for out team. I think the league would value Harris over Favors as well. But I also think what the league values them at shouldnt really weigh on the Jazz that much. They should get the players that help them win. Values can change quickly in the NBA.

 

[infection]

I would value Harris over Favors for out team. I think the league would value Harris over Favors as well. But I also think what the league values them at shouldnt really weigh on the Jazz that much. They should get the players that help them win. Values can change quickly in the NBA.

You should read my posts again because I went out of my way to make that point multiple times.

 

[Ron Mexico]

You should read my posts again because I went out of my way to make that point multiple times.

I dont know why you are assuming I am disagreeing with you.

 

[RandyForRubio]

If we miss out on Tobias due to Conley's albatross, it's a pretty big fail by management.

Conley makes us a better team than Harris does. So no, not a big fail.

 

[infection]

I dont know why you are assuming I am disagreeing with you.

Because I’m referencing perceived value as a source for questioning, and people seem offended and are getting lost on arguing about that perceived value without acknowledging at all the abstract question, and the overall point of my argument.

 

[Park Bites]

Nah man... I been team Harris for a long time... Yall acting like this a Rich Paul situation with AD (Lakers or nothing) and 90% of you don't understand the cap or our situation.

Sorry to throw cold water on this but this ain't 2k... wipe the Cheeto crumbs off your chest and put down the controller.

Doritos but i understand

 

[Ron Mexico]

Conley makes us a better team than Harris does. So no, not a big fail.

Yep, a PG that can shoot and create was a much much bigger need for the team than another PF.

 

[Coach Ellis]

I love Favors, and am all for keeping him if a better opportunity to upgrade isn’t available. With that said. . . getting Tobias Harris presents exactly that opportunity IMO.

The Jazz need guys that can help win in the playoffs. As valuable as Favors is, I think Harris would help more in the postseason.

If he really does want to be here, there’s two routes to make it work. Offer Philly Favors and Exum (plus 2nd round picks) in a sign and trade, or clear out cap space to sign Harris and re-work the Conley deal to make the trade functional after using all the cap space.

It’s time to take risks. If the Jazz have a chance to land TWO near All-Star caliber guys to go with Mitchell, Gobert, Jingles and O’Neale. . . they should pursue all options.

 

[fishonjazz]

I heavily disagree.

One thing we can all agree on and be certain of is that Harris would play more than the 23.2 minutes per game that favors played last year

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