Jazz4ever
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Conley makes us a better team than Harris does. So no, not a big fail.
Oh but it is. Harris is just entering his prime, Conley will be falling off a cliff by year 2.
Conley makes us a better team than Harris does. So no, not a big fail.
You get Tobias this year then we use the full MLE to get Favors back next summer.
We grow, learn and experience a great season. Add Favors back next summer.
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But Favors went through three straight years of major minutes hell that led up to this.
Definitely unlikely, but it keeps the Favors lovers hopeful.That seems very very unlikely. But you still get Tobias if you can.
This neutered offense we have been strolling out for ~5 years now with an offensive genius coach is getting all so tiresome.
If Gobert gets hurt, we’re ****ed whether we have Favors or not. As I’ve said, we should be looking to raise our ceiling, not focus on raising our floor.
Our record without gobert disagrees with you.I don’t agree. Favs isn’t as good as Gobert on defense. But much better on offense. With Favs I think we still are better than most other teams on defense.
Our record without Gobert is not a playoff record. It’s quite dismal.I don’t agree. Favs isn’t as good as Gobert on defense. But much better on offense. With Favs I think we still are better than most other teams on defense.
Lol at minutes hell.
30 per game
30 per game
32 per game
That's called starter minutes
And we gutted our assets to get Conley.Oh but it is. Harris is just entering his prime, Conley will be falling off a cliff by year 2.
Why the **** is this a reason to devote eight figures to him?Such crazy talk in here.
Favors minutes were reduced to keep him healthy throughout the year. Because he played basically three years in a row were too many minutes meant that he would be injured by the end of the year.
So, Gobert or no Gobert, Favors is on a permanent minutes restriction for the rest of his career. This is a big part of why he wants to stay in Utah. His body is being managed appropriately here.
This is not that complicated. Furthermore, the best offense beats the best defense every time, and at a certain point we need to be able to keep up with teams that don’t care about Gobert because they do so well spacing the floor and are perfectly comfortable bombing away all game.Lineup data suggest that we were better with Joe Johnson and Gobert on the floor together when Johnson was here than Gobert and Favors. Johnson wasn't any good on D but our defense was still fine when he was on the floor and our offense was much better. And Tobias is much better than Johnson was at that stage of his career.
Why the **** is this a reason to devote eight figures to him?
Crowder and gobert played with Rubio too doe.
Also it's quite telling that favors played 23 minutes per game. Quin an idiot apparently.
Also telling that freaking grandpa Joe Johnson was better next to gobert than favors.
The part about favors being better than gobert doesn't really matter cause gobert is our center.
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Except in Golden State to win rings, or Stockton to sign Malone. Or Gobert.He’s from NY... it isn’t just us vs. Philly it’s Brooklyn (maybe) at full max... Indiana at full max, Dallas at full max or Utah and 20M less...
If he isn’t into the status of being a max free agent then the money may not matter as much but in general dudes don’t take pay cuts... even small ones.
That is stupid. Plain and simple.It sure as **** ain’t. But Favors’ cachet with the Jazz isn’t a simple matter of his production and usage. They love him.