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sirslimjim

sirslimjim

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Can somebody please explain why everyone assumes Tomic will join the Jazz next season. Based solely on the wikipedia entry on him, it looks like he signed a 3 year contract with Real Madrid this past January. Is there something here I'm overlooking?
 
He apparently has an affordable buyout in his contract. Most professional players overseas have these. Some are very high though like Rubio's has been. The Jazz can pay $500,000 towards it and Tomic would have to pay the rest. Since he was a second round pick he is not help to the rookie pay scale for first round picks.
 
Im sure the Jazz will do everything they can to get him here. With Dwill's contract coming up, they are going to want to put as much talent in Utah as possible.
 
The money shouldn't be what we are focused on. We bring him over when he's ready reguardless of the price.
If he continues to improve he'll force the issue. I hope that's the case. I hope he's so good that we are pressured to pony up, and bring him over.

Who knows, it make take another 2 seasons before he's ready. So far so good though. He's an exciting prospect to watch from afar.
 
Tomic vs Splitter

Splitter just signed for three years and $10.9 million with the Spurs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1JA-OM5La0
 
NCJazz said:
He apparently has an affordable buyout in his contract. Most professional players overseas have these. Some are very high though like Rubio's has been. The Jazz can pay $500,000 towards it and Tomic would have to pay the rest. Since he was a second round pick he is not help to the rookie pay scale for first round picks.
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his buyout is anything but affordable. i've read there is NO buyout option for this summer, and the buyout for next summer is 5 million euros, or north of $7M USD. how is that affordable? the buyout does scale down in the last couple of years, but unless tomic wants to play in the NBA so bad that he'll play for free, we won't see him until 2012.
 
But if you think Ante Tomic can fill in for Mehmet Okur should the Jazz's starting center miss the start of next season, think again.

Earlier this year, Tomic — a second-round Jazz draft choice in 2008, No. 44 overall — signed a 3 1/2-year contract with Real Madrid of the Spanish ACB League.

According to multiple NBA sources, the deal does not include an NBA buyout clause prior to the 2010-11 NBA season — meaning the earliest Tomic can get out of the contract and join the Jazz would be in the summer of 2011, if both sides were so inclined.

So so much for the notion of Tomic stepping in for Okur, who on Tuesday underwent surgery to repair the Achilles tendon he ruptured in last Saturday's Game 1 of Utah's first-round NBA playoff series with Denver.
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https://www.deseretnews.com/article...e-Tomic-making-name-for-himself-overseas.html
 
theNBAnerd said:
his buyout is anything but affordable. i've read there is NO buyout option for this summer, and the buyout for next summer is 5 million euros, or north of $7M USD. how is that affordable? the buyout does scale down in the last couple of years, but unless tomic wants to play in the NBA so bad that he'll play for free, we won't see him until 2012.
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Not saying you are incorrect, but care to share where these numbers came from. I could swear from what I saw that it might be doable to bring him season after next. Hopefully, new CBA will allow teams to pay more towards buyouts. I would think Stern would want more international players in the NBA for diversity sake. :)
 
NCJazz said:
Not saying you are incorrect, but care to share where these numbers came from. I could swear from what I saw that it might be doable to bring him season after next. Hopefully, new CBA will allow teams to pay more towards buyouts. I would think Stern would want more international players in the NBA for diversity sake. :)
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can't seem to find the original article about it (marca has a pretty poor online archive, i know cuz i used to work for them), but here are a couple places where people referenced it:

https://www.tribtalk.com/showthread.php?t=25347
https://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=448443
 
Yeah, did see a couple of places that mentioned five million euros, but nothing very reliable. These buyouts seem to kept very hush hush. Hopefully the five million euros is incorrect and perhaps new CBA will allow more for buyouts. Maybe made moot if Fes re-signs and dominates (one can wish).

theNBAnerd said:
can't seem to find the original article about it (marca has a pretty poor online archive, i know cuz i used to work for them), but here are a couple places where people referenced it:

https://www.tribtalk.com/showthread.php?t=25347
https://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=448443
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Tomic seems to have solid low post moves with both hands and doesn't avoid contacts. Even if he's not coming to the Jazz until 2012, it still gives us some hope for the future. A very solid pick by KOC in the second round yet again.
 
with respect to siler, who has been astute enough to provide absolutely ZERO details of tomic's buyout clause, i think he's shooting from the hip. not that it COULDN'T happen in 2011, but if it does, it means one of two things:

1) tomic and his agent were able to negotiate a serious discount in the buyout amount (not altogether uncommon, although less likely in this case because AT is a key piece for madrid.)
2) tomic wants to be an NBA player so bad that he is willing to part with 5M + of his own coin to make it happen. (rarely happens, and if it did, it would mean the jazz were likely willing to pay him a splitter-like deal.)
 
Meh.

By the time he actually comes here and actually adjusts to the NBA, Jerry will have passed on, Dwill will be in the booth for TNT, and no one will care about the Jazz since SLC will have a NFL team by then.

Seriously, I don't see this kid every playing here in Utah.
 
The Thriller said:
Maybe we can ship AK and Masha to Madrid for Tomic. We'll even throw in a car dealership or two.
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theNBAnerd said:
can't seem to find the original article about it (marca has a pretty poor online archive, i know cuz i used to work for them), but here are a couple places where people referenced it:

https://www.tribtalk.com/showthread.php?t=25347
https://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=448443
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Well, this amount can be negotiated if Jazz want him. 7 mil is the worst case scenario. I would think the amount can be greatly reduced. I recall Lopez was able to reduce his buyout quite significantly back int he day. While Jazz can only contribute 500K to his buyout, they can give him a larger contract than let's say the one Splitter got, in effect contributing more to the buyout. I think if Tomic plays really well next year in Spain to the point Jazz want him, and he wants to come over to Utah next summer, there is a fairly good chance it will happen. Jazz will have to spend most of mid-level for it, but this is nowhere near an impossible situation.
 
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