Tough Day To Be In Law Enforcement

[Deleted member 365]

It’s kinda funny how the people consistently against police reform and equal rights consistently find ways to blame victims for dying. No matter the case, they always find ways to justify the killing. Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, Emmett Till, etc etc etc didn’t deserve to die.

 

[Beer]

It’s kinda funny how the people consistently against police reform and equal rights consistently find ways to blame victims for dying. No matter the case, they always find ways to justify the killing. Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, Emmett Till, etc etc etc didn’t deserve to die.

Tamil Rice and Emmitt Till should be mentioned in the same breath as the others.

 

[fishonjazz]

So was I. But if I was involved with the drug trade, pretty much everyone I was involved with was also, then the cops reasonably surveilled me, then my buddy shot at the cops when they weee executing a reasonable and legal warrant, and I was caught in the crossfire I’d like to think I’d understand why I was now dead.

Eh. I think drugs is small time. I don't think breaking down doors ready shoot is necessary.
I would find the force used that caused my death to be excessive.

We will just have to agree to disagree on this I guess.

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[Deleted member 365]

Eh. I think drugs is small time. I don't think breaking down doors ready shoot is necessary.
I would find the force used that caused my death to be excessive.

We will just have to agree to disagree on this I guess.

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Why are we breaking down doors that late for drugs in the first place? Who’s protected? Who’s being served? And what of the 4th amendment? We talk so much over here 2nd but never about the 4th-8th.

 

[Joncolton]

There was no such portion 4 days ago, nor 4 months ago, nor 4 years ago. I don't know why you believe this lie, but it is a lie.

Are you sure?

BLM removes a page that mentions disrupting the 'nuclear family'

The grassroot organization removed several pages from their about section in the cleanup, according to an archive of their website.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Also, there are numerous videos of the founders of BLM calling themselves "trained Marxists" and calling for a Marxist revolution. Am I supposed to believe them at their own words? Or you who apparently knows better somehow, someway?

 

[Comrade in Seattle]

There's literally video of it and Thriller is acting like the kid walked up to him and shot him in the back. At the same time, he's like the Portland killer got maced so self defense.

Oh cmon man. You dont actually believe that video is real? Clearly its the work of 4chan and the white supremacists using deep fake. All you have to do is turn on some real news like CNN and you will find the truth . They arent talking about any kind of self defense. If some rando on twitter says he was shot in the back then thats the truth. You gotta be a teacher to know that.

 

[Beer]

Eh. I think drugs is small time. I don't think breaking down doors ready shoot is necessary.
I would find the force used that caused my death to be excessive.

We will just have to agree to disagree on this I guess.

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we are on the same page there. A law that serves no one. But it is the law so I’m not going to fault law enforcement for doing their job. They were shot at first. That’s factual. Now how everyone’s rights plays out in this is up for debate.

I’m more bothered that the more I learn the more it seems she was involved at some level in dealing drugs. So the media trying to portray her as a complete innocent who was murdered seems dishonest at best. She didn’t deserve to die for her alleged crimes, but once her bf started shooting what other choice did the cops have?

 

[Zombie]

we are on the same page there. A law that serves no one. But it is the law so I’m not going to fault law enforcement for doing their job. They were shot at first. That’s factual. Now how everyone’s rights plays out in this is up for debate.

I’m more bothered that the more I learn the more it seems she was involved at some level in dealing drugs. So the media trying to portray her as a complete innocent who was murdered seems dishonest at best. She didn’t deserve to die for her alleged crimes, but once her bf started shooting what other choice did the cops have?

No one is completely innocent, and the evidence that she was even an alleged criminal is thin at best.

I would submit that going in guns blazing to a house not even owned or lived in by the subject of the warrant renders the whole discussion of what the cops were supposed to do when Breonna's boyfriend started defending his home to be meaningless. It misses the entire point of why people are upset over her killing. The police created the situation they found themselves in and neither Breonna nor her boyfriend have anything to answer for regarding how that night went down.

 

[Deleted member 365]

No one is completely innocent, and the evidence that she was even an alleged criminal is thin at best.

I would submit that going in guns blazing to a house not even owned or lived in by the subject of the warrant renders the whole discussion of what the cops were supposed to do when Breonna's boyfriend started defending his home to be meaningless. It misses the entire point of why people are upset over her killing. The police created the situation they found themselves in and neither Breonna nor her boyfriend have anything to answer for regarding how that night went down.

I mean, would the cops be excused if they got my address wrong and started blowing away my family in the middle of the night too?

If only we had amendments that guarded against these types of searches from police. Something about unreasonable searches and seizures and due process would be nice...

 

[One Brow]

Are you sure?

BLM removes a page that mentions disrupting the 'nuclear family'

The grassroot organization removed several pages from their about section in the cleanup, according to an archive of their website.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Very sure. Think about the words "prescribed" and "requirement", and what they mean in this sentence:
'We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages”.

Now, compare that to:
"Dissolution of the family structure"

In case you are felling a little slower than usual today, the first statement is a proclamation that BLM rejects the hetero-normative requirement that families consist of two parents of different sex and gender, the second is fear-mongering that BLM does not believe in families at all.

Also, there are numerous videos of the founders of BLM calling themselves "trained Marxists" and calling for a Marxist revolution. Am I supposed to believe them at their own words? Or you who apparently knows better somehow, someway?

This country was founded, in part, by avid slavers and land speculators, who felt only white, male land-owners deserved the vote, and even then needed to be controlled. Do you believe that means those are the principles of this country? Or, it is possible that organization do not take on the all of the attributes of some of their founders?

The words of BLM are the words that BLM uses, not that some people who have played a part in BLM use.

 

[Jazz4ever]

I mean, would the cops be excused if they got my address wrong and started blowing away my family in the middle of the night too?

If only we had amendments that guarded against these types of searches from police. Something about unreasonable searches and seizures and due process would be nice...

You can always relax the laws, but drugs are a big problem in recent years, almost double the overdosing deaths in the last 10 years. Letting the dealers run unchecked is indirect murdering.

In Shadow of Pandemic, U.S. Drug Overdose Deaths Resurge to Record (Published 2020)

After the first decrease in a quarter-century, in 2018, the number of deaths is again on the rise.

www.nytimes.com

 

[One Brow]

I’m more bothered that the more I learn the more it seems she was involved at some level in dealing drugs.

Do you have something more to go on the the selectively edited Tatum Report?

So the media trying to portray her as a complete innocent who was murdered seems dishonest at best.

She was not a complete innocent, but seems to have been completely innocent in the sense of having no record she committed crimes, unless you have found something.

She didn’t deserve to die for her alleged crimes, but once her bf started shooting what other choice did the cops have?

Again, "started shooting" implies more than one shot. He shot once. Why do you think you are slanting your language to make the actions of Taylor and K. Walker seem worse than they were?