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Trade Confirmed: Jazz get jack for Bogey

I think the big take away here is that teams are probably done trading first round picks. If Bojan could have netted an unprotected pick we would have done that. What was likely out there was protected picks where we take back bad salary. Danny and OKC have destroyed the unprotected picks market. It is likely done for a while going forward.

The next thing will be good players on even better contracts. In that reality expiring contracts aren't going to be worth what they once were. How many big free agent signings happen each year? Like one and if things get crazy, two.

Nonetheless, what we thought was available for Bojan was not available. I kinda wonder what that reality looks like throughout the coming few years. There is a good chance that the overall haul we got for our players will not be possible again for a while. Glad we got the last seat on the bus.
 
I guess the good part is that if things go sideways for Minny or Cleveland they probably won't be able to sell stuff to right themselves as easily.
 
framer said:
I think the big take away here is that teams are probably done trading first round picks. If Bojan could have netted an unprotected pick we would have done that. What was likely out there was protected picks where we take back bad salary. Danny and OKC have destroyed the unprotected picks market. It is likely done for a while going forward.

The next thing will be good players on even better contracts. In that reality expiring contracts aren't going to be worth what they once were. How many big free agent signings happen each year? Like one and if things get crazy, two.

Nonetheless, what we thought was available for Bojan was not available. I kinda wonder what that reality looks like throughout the coming few years. There is a good chance that the overall haul we got for our players will not be possible again for a while. Glad we got the last seat on the bus.
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Andy said there were deals for firsts but would have required taking on salary. The timing kind of screwed us. I think there is some truth that the 1rp market has been raided. I also think the far out firsts we got and that have been handed out the last couple years will start to look even more crazy... it was one of the reasons I wanted to rebuild now.
 
I still think there is a Lakers deal to discuss... Mike, JC, Gay for Westbrook straight up.... Mike, JC, Vando for Westbrook and a 1st.

One of JC or Mike needs to go before the season.
 
framer said:
Let it go. Without picks they can choke on Westbrook. They aren't giving up any picks.
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Well if we do the non-picks deal we don't have to cut 3 of Gay, JB, Doke, Johnson, Lee... and we end up with like $40M+ in space next year. Them choking on Westbrook is fine. Us not really having cap space and being the 6th or 7th worst team instead of bottom 3-4 is ****** regardless of what is happening in LA.
 
Sounds like this trade was a real dumper. Made with mostly money concerns. Cool… that’s so exciting. Wake me up once this team gets decent uniforms again, has a good tv deal, and has a decent roster. Until then? I’m not sure how emotionally invested I’ll be in this smoldering crater of a franchise. This really does feel like we’re back to the post Dwill/Cbooz/Memo and Ty Corbin days.
 
fishonjazz said:
Good attitude to have imo.
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People are over reacting way too much. We are pretty much set for the tank. Just have to dump the vets, and at this point we just need to get rid of them so we can develop our youth, and be in good position for a high lotto pick.

I'm cool with keeping JC or Conley for mentorship though. Mike mentoring Collin for 1/2 season-1 season could pay dividends, then hand the keys over to Collin full fledge
 
If I had to guess I would say that Coach Hardy requested that we actually carry an NBA center into the season, at least one. He is a pretty important part of what we want to do going forward. It seems we have been fumbling around trying to fulfill that request.
 
The Thriller said:
Sounds like this trade was a real dumper. Made with mostly money concerns. Cool… that’s so exciting. Wake me up once this team gets decent uniforms again, has a good tv deal, and has a decent roster. Until then? I’m not sure how emotionally invested I’ll be in this smoldering crater of a franchise. This really does feel like we’re back to the post Dwill/Cbooz/Memo and Ty Corbin days.
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The difference is this time we have a **** ton of assets and one of the very best GMs (or CEO of Basketball Operations, or whatever the **** his title is) in the league running the show. It's going to be a rough two or three years, but this is by far the best position we've been in to build a championship team since Stockton/Malone.
 
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