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Trade Confirmed: Jazz get jack for Bogey




Saint Cy of JFC

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I think the big take away here is that teams are probably done trading first round picks. If Bojan could have netted an unprotected pick we would have done that. What was likely out there was protected picks where we take back bad salary. Danny and OKC have destroyed the unprotected picks market. It is likely done for a while going forward.

The next thing will be good players on even better contracts. In that reality expiring contracts aren't going to be worth what they once were. How many big free agent signings happen each year? Like one and if things get crazy, two.

Nonetheless, what we thought was available for Bojan was not available. I kinda wonder what that reality looks like throughout the coming few years. There is a good chance that the overall haul we got for our players will not be possible again for a while. Glad we got the last seat on the bus.
Andy Larsen said there were offers with 1st round picks, but there was too much salary coming back.
 

Handlogten's Heros

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Again... this trade kinda shows we really can't read the room with our cap space. If you had to take on money... even a Duncan Robinson type.... do it to get the pick. Our cap space is not that valuable and lots of bad teams will have space and be competing for whatever FA are available. Salary dump deals really haven't been available.

Also, if you are going to do ****** offers because you are locked into a guy you love... go ahead and squeeze a little. If we told Detroit we will do it but need two second round picks or they can take Gay's salary are they doing the deal still? Probably... if they walk... tell em you will call em later.

One more thing. I bet you they'd have done KO for JC straight up. They have a huge logjam at center... why wouldn't we do that? Well follow the money. Ryan got a little ways away from the tax and banked $7M... thank god he can now feed his family.
 

Saint Cy of JFC

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It's W/E overall though. Obviously Ryan Smith didnt want this tank thing to happen but DA/JZ talked him into pursuing it. He's going to get compensated by the team being more affordable and having trades like these. It's fair, I guess.
 

SoberasHotRod

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Again... this trade kinda shows we really can't read the room with our cap space. If you had to take on money... even a Duncan Robinson type.... do it to get the pick. Our cap space is not that valuable and lots of bad teams will have space and be competing for whatever FA are available. Salary dump deals really haven't been available.

Also, if you are going to do ****** offers because you are locked into a guy you love... go ahead and squeeze a little. If we told Detroit we will do it but need two second round picks or they can take Gay's salary are they doing the deal still? Probably... if they walk... tell em you will call em later.

One more thing. I bet you they'd have done KO for JC straight up. They have a huge logjam at center... why wouldn't we do that? Well follow the money. Ryan got a little ways away from the tax and banked $7M... thank god he can now feed his family.
It's good of you to be concerned about the Smith's.

I don't think we are trying to maintain cap space next year for salary dumps. From everything we are hearing it sounds like we legit think we can get some free agents next year that will put us in to contention.
 

Saint Cy of JFC

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It's good of you to be concerned about the Smith's.

I don't think we are trying to maintain cap space next year for salary dumps. From everything we are hearing it sounds like we legit think we can get some free agents next year that will put us in to contention.
Next year is a OK free agent class without the top top end talent. THe following year is the GOAT class. I do think Utah can maybe cleanup if they put their eggs in that basket and get some solid overall players on good deals.
 

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It's W/E overall though. Obviously Ryan Smith didnt want this tank thing to happen but DA/JZ talked him into pursuing it. He's going to get compensated by the team being more affordable and having trades like these. It's fair, I guess.
Just by selling off the stars and Royce and not competing he saved like $30M+

Last year they saved $12M on the NAW deal... it was a credit card doe... so they needed to cut another $5M I guess.

Fine with cutting salary to save some money I guess but maybe not with Bogey... at least squeeze them for a second round pick so you can route that pick to someone to take Doke's salary or Lee's salary or JB's salary to save some more cash.
 

SoberasHotRod

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Next year is a OK free agent class without the top top end talent. THe following year is the GOAT class. I do think Utah can maybe cleanup if they put their eggs in that basket and get some solid overall players on good deals.
Sure, but what's the plan to get All Star level talent? (Could be misinterpreting your post)
 


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