Trade Confirmed: Jazz get jack for Bogey

[Handlogten's Heros]

You don't even know what they were offering yet you are pissed we didn't take it. If there was ANY value at all don't you think Danny bleeping Ainge would have took it? Do you think he took the other deal just to piss in your Cheerios? Phoenix wanted stuff for nothing and to stick us with their trash. Dumping Bogan for nothing would have been better than that.

My fav part is where declare he doesn’t know what they were offering then state they were offering nothing and wanted us to take their trash.

The offer was either crowder, Saric, a first for bogey/Vando or crowder shamet a first for bogey Vando. Pretty easy yes to #1 if the alternative is the KO deal we did. Shamet has some money on his deal but it’s fine.

It’s okay to disagree with the front office… they aren’t infallible.

 

[jumpin bean]

MAYBE THE GMs around the league were just pissed at Ainge for changing the landscape of trading with the massive pick hauls he got in the trades this offseason. They were like F Ainge we aint offering him crap from now on and so with season coming Ainge just made the best trade available. I dont think anyone was giving Ainge another 1st offer just for spite.

 

[Jingled]

MAYBE THE GMs around the league were just pissed at Ainge for changing the landscape of trading with the massive pick hauls he got in the trades this offseason. They were like F Ainge we aint offering him crap from now on and so with season coming Ainge just made the best trade available. I dont think anyone was giving Ainge another 1st offer just for spite.

It's actually been reported that the Jazz did have some teams offer them a 1st for Bojan. The Suns offered a package that included a first but wanted Bogey and Vanderbilt, other teams like the Heat offered a 1st but wanted the Jazz to take back long-term salary and the Jazz weren't willing to do that.

 

[Miggs]

We are less than a month away from the start of the regular season. I think Ainge didn’t have a lot of current takers for Bogey (and getting a 1st back right now) for whatever reason and said **** it. It’s about the draft and tanking. And not to get the 9th pick. Do it right.

 

[NUMBERICA]

It's actually been reported that the Jazz did have some teams offer them a 1st for Bojan. The Suns offered a package that included a first but wanted Bogey and Vanderbilt, other teams like the Heat offered a 1st but wanted the Jazz to take back long-term salary and the Jazz weren't willing to do that.

And the Lakers (just not two picks).

We’ve been discussing the basic frameworks of the deals that were passed on for weeks or months.

But I think the overall point that Ainge cultivates grievance is true and documented. That creates complications for sure.

 

[Elizah Huge]

You don't even know what they were offering yet you are pissed we didn't take it. If there was ANY value at all don't you think Danny bleeping Ainge would have took it? Do you think he took the other deal just to piss in your Cheerios? Phoenix wanted stuff for nothing and to stick us with their trash. Dumping Bogan for nothing would have been better than that.

This is pure ****ing gold.

You say I don’t even know what they were offering but then you state Phoenix wanted stuff for nothing lmao.

If there was any value at all don’t I think Danny would have taken it? No I really don’t because there was value and he opted to do an inferior deal.

People can say at least we saved money in the Detroit deal. Bogey/Vando for Crowder/Saric/1st saves us almost the same amount plus we get a 1st plus we don’t have 3M of guaranteed salary on the books next year plus we subtract Vando’s salary next year too.

It’s just too bad there wasn’t any value in a deal like that and the absolute best we could do is get Olynyk and save money.

 

[fishonjazz]

Not what he said at all and you haven’t paid attention to the reporting. We could have gotten a first but didn’t want to take on long term salary.

At the trade deadline additional trades open up as guys that were signed can be aggregated. If they aren’t in the play in race I’d bet they are able to get a first for him. Teams also will have an idea of how they are doing and how their picks will land.

Also injuries happen and bogey might be needed to replace an injured player on a contending team


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[silesian]

I’m thinking that short of a three or four for one trade, that Butler, NAW and Johnson are the odd guys out. I wish however that they showed some brass and waived Rudy Gay and kept either Johnson or NAW.

Gay is needed for salary filler once we take on a bad contract to save a team from the tax Bad contract plus pick for (filler) will happen.

 

[Pastramiking]

Why wouldn’t Utah at least got second round pick? Detroit had one from Portland they could have added from the Jerami Grant trade.

 

[Pastramiking]

The only other angle I can see is that it saves us money.

Not sure it does at KO has more years on his deal. Neither is an expiring contract

 

[framer]

I just find it funny that a 2024 1st is just something that is a non-starter for a rotational piece.

The potential double draft and potential for Phoenix to get bit by the injury bug is why you’d do something like this.

You don't know it was an unprotected 24 pick. If it was, Danny might have done the deal. I mean he has been pretty upfront about 3 things. Players with potential, good vets on expirings, and unprotected later year picks. Give him those, and the deal gets done. We had absolutely no interest in the Knicks garbage protected picks.

I mean if the deal from Phoenix is so good you would expect Indy or the Spurs to jump on it with their assets, no?

BTW, how is that moving vets for firsts going for Indiana and San Antonio since the Rudy and Donovan trades?

 

[homeytennis]

The point guard we acquired did have great GLeague stats.