Trade deadline discussion

[Jazz Traveler]

I don’t think we‘re going to accomplish diddly squat this season in the playoffs. Would also consider trading Mitchell for Giddey and a couple 1st round draft picks, at least one unprotected. Really like Giddey’s size, court vision, defense. Think he’s going to be a franchise player in the near future.

 

[416Klawzz]

I don’t think we‘re going to accomplish diddly squat this season in the playoffs. Would also consider trading Mitchell for Giddey and a couple 1st round draft picks, at least one unprotected. Really like Giddey’s size, court vision, defense. Think he’s going to be a franchise player in the near future.

You only trade Mitchell if he requests a trade no one of his caliber would ever come to Utah or stay past their rookie contract. You can't lose Mitchell. You can however try to rid yourself of Gobert and that hideous contract and lack of offensive abilities

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think you're underestimating the value of putting more size on the floor. Barnes being bigger/longer will make him a better team defender. Also, I think that House and Forrest are as good defensively on the perimeter as Royce.

What does Barnes do with his superior size cuz he gets steals and blocks at a rate similar to Bogey and his assy team is even assier on defense when he’s on the court.

If Barnes is a bogey replacement then fine… if it’s to play alongside of Bogey it doesn’t work the way people think it will.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

What does Barnes do with his superior size cuz he gets steals and blocks at a rate similar to Bogey and his assy team is even assier on defense when he’s on the court.

If Barnes is a bogey replacement then fine… if it’s to play alongside of Bogey it doesn’t work the way people think it will.

Barnes wasnt even a better defender than Royce during his GSW days. He's a passive average defender who is OK. He isnt going to bring Royce things and if you are replacing Royce with him, the team has a higher chance at getting worse defensively than it does at getting better.

 

[Ineptimusprime]

Trading Mitchell or Gobert right now would be profoundly stupid whether or not we’re going to accomplish anything in the Playoffs.

Trading Conley or Bogey would be a wise forward-thinking move based on what I believe our chances of winning a title this year are (but I could totally be wrong).

It’s also reasonable to think we COULD win a title this year. If that’s what the FO thinks, then Clarkson and Ingles are as high as you can reasonably get in the rotation for trade candidates, unless of course you get a stupid good offer for Bogey or something (i.e. comparable player + assets our way).

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Barnes wasnt even a better defender than Royce during his GSW days. He's a passive average defender who is OK. He isnt going to bring Royce things and if you are replacing Royce with him, the team has a higher chance at getting worse defensively than it does at getting better.

And as we know the offense ain’t the biggest issue. And I don’t want to **** on Barnes. He’s a good player and a great dude. If they decided they wanted him longer term over Bogey or if the finger thing is going to linger then switch them out. But if you do Royce and Ingles and a pick for Barnes then you will need to trade Bogey out for something as well to replace Royce.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

The only trades I can see that really makes any sense to me and bettering the jazz, unless they want to start over is trade JC and Ingles contract for picks, then play Butler and Huges some.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Given how far into this build the Jazz are, how relatively wide-open the path to the finals are (I believe they are, again, relative to most years), and that Mike and Bogey aren't going to be better than they are this year, I think going for it this year is still maybe the best opportunity to do so. Maybe Barnes becomes the super sub if you get him? He does not round out the main unit, he does the opposite, actually.

Barnes or not, if you can rebuild the bench to be a stable of hustling defensive players then that is probably the middle-ground in terms of how to change the roster before the deadline and keeping an eye to the future. Namely, Smart and Kenny who could be serious contributors and fallback main-lineup players (in case of injury, trade, or special lineup). I think you could get both without sending a 1st, Conley, or Bogey. So that's where I'm landing for my wishes this deadline; Smart and Kenny (for Ingles, Clarkson, and non-1st sweeteners if necessary).

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

The only trades I can see that really makes any sense to me and bettering the jazz, unless they want to start over is trade JC and Ingles contract for picks, then play Butler and Huges some.

We also have House, but I like Butler’s defense. I don’t know if it’s good or great, as he hasn’t played enough to know for sure, but what I do know is his defense won’t hurt a team

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

We also have House, but I like Butler’s defense. I don’t know if it’s good or great, as he hasn’t played enough to know for sure, but what I do know is his defense won’t hurt a team

Butler is fine on defense if you are comparing him to JC. He will get better with time. He's done better passing and moving the ball. I think if you take JC off the court and let him cook he might be more efficient and get more folks involved. I'd like to see what he does with regular minutes. If he hits the step back 3 at 35-40% he becomes and efficient 20 ppg guy I think. That is a high mark, but he gets so much separation on it that I think he can do it eventually. He's so good with the ball I'm not sure why the Jazz were so adamant to start the season that he needs to stay in the corner and do nothing. Conley is having trouble getting space... JB can help with a creator if you develop him... why stifle it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If they really want to do a Grant or Barnes trade I think its Bogey and a pick that goes out. Say Atlanta would do Bogey for Gallo and the pick they got in the Reddish deal... you then send a Utah first, Gallo, and the other first to Detroit. Can likely dump Udoka if you want... though he's played well enough that someone should take him on without an incentive imo.

 

[Katastrofica]

Butler is fine on defense if you are comparing him to JC. He will get better with time. He's done better passing and moving the ball. I think if you take JC off the court and let him cook he might be more efficient and get more folks involved. I'd like to see what he does with regular minutes. If he hits the step back 3 at 35-40% he becomes and efficient 20 ppg guy I think. That is a high mark, but he gets so much separation on it that I think he can do it eventually. He's so good with the ball I'm not sure why the Jazz were so adamant to start the season that he needs to stay in the corner and do nothing. Conley is having trouble getting space... JB can help with a creator if you develop him... why stifle it.

Yup. Jazz got 95% what's needed on his own team just need to be smart and use it properly. Ofc u can dream about how u gonna give almost nothing for something. Grass is always greener in neighbours yard..