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Handlogten's Heros said:
Like I'd rather get Lamb than Richardson... and I think the asking price on Richardson is likely higher.
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That's an interesting comparison. I'm not sure, I guess it depends on the Jazz tolerance for taking on an extra deal of money. But maybe they like Richardson at that number and see it as a plus.

Richardson is definitely having a better season and has higher trade value right now, but I might be with you on Lamb. I think IND would be eager to trade Lamb for someone like JC because they won't resign Lamb and don't have another way to acquire a player like JC. They won't be a cap space team, so Lamb would be gone for nothing. I think they'd honestly want JC more than Ingles + sweetener.
 
KqWIN said:
That's an interesting comparison. I'm not sure, I guess it depends on the Jazz tolerance for taking on an extra deal of money. But maybe they like Richardson at that number and see it as a plus.

Richardson is definitely having a better season and has higher trade value right now, but I might be with you on Lamb. I think IND would be eager to trade Lamb for someone like JC because they won't resign Lamb and don't have another way to acquire a player like JC. They won't be a cap space team, so Lamb would be gone for nothing. I think they'd honestly want JC more than Ingles + sweetener.
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Done... send it in to the league.

You are likely also taking back either Craig or Holiday so that Indiana doesn't jump over the tax. I didn't see them as a great JC destination because they have Brogdon, Duarte, LeVert, McConnell, but Carlisle likes playing lots of guards.

Likely depends on what they do with Turner or Sabonis... they have a path to being a cap space team... either way there is a deal here somewhere.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Like I'd rather get Lamb than Richardson... and I think the asking price on Richardson is likely higher.
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I sure wouldn't. Spent some time watching game footage when both their names popped up, with particular emphasis on defense. Richardson, in my opinion, is so much better there. Lamb's a liability no matter what his advanced stats or wingspan might suggest.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Done... send it in to the league.

You are likely also taking back either Craig or Holiday so that Indiana doesn't jump over the tax. I didn't see them as a great JC destination because they have Brogdon, Duarte, LeVert, McConnell, but Carlisle likes playing lots of guards.

Likely depends on what they do with Turner or Sabonis... they have a path to being a cap space team... either way there is a deal here somewhere.
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Yeah I just kind of see it as, would the Pacers want Torrey Craig or Jordan Clarkson? I don't think Lamb is in their plans at all. They do have a lot of guards so maybe that answer is still Craig, but I think they still might like JC. Especially if they move LeVert.

NOP remains the most obvious JC destination, I really hope the Jazz can scrounge together that trade with POR and NOP that gives us Covington, POR out of the tax, and NOP gets in a good position to make the play in tournament.
 
idiot said:
I sure wouldn't. Spent some time watching game footage when both their names popped up, with particular emphasis on defense. Richardson, in my opinion, is so much better there. Lamb's a liability no matter what his advanced stats or wingspan might suggest.
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He gets steals and rebounds at a higher rate and his team is better defensively with him on the floor than off it. J Rich might be better there but his teams this year and last were both worse with him on the court defensively... He also got benched in the playoffs last year. He's making his shots now but his shot comes and goes.

Its kind of a coin toss for me and I'd rather have the expiring contract and I think the acquisition price will be much lower on Lamb. I think consensus would be with you though.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
I wonder if Ainge has compromising photos of Brad Stevens.
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You know those two have a plan... Stevens gets canned as the GM and then gets back into coaching after a short break. Stevens becomes our head coach someday. Ainge is great at making deals with former buddies.
 
I think the chances of a good Boston trade just decreased now that Jaylen Brown is not an all-star. Apparently Brown would be due $1.4M if he made the all-star team. This means that Boston now has a much easier path to get under the luxury tax (not only to save any tax, but also to participate in the $12M or so distribution teams who are under the tax will get after the season). The only reason a favorable trade with Boston made any sense is to help them get under the tax. But Brown's exclusion from the all-star team now means Boston has easier paths to get there (because they don't have to shed as much salary/there may be more partners available for them).

Brown could still make the team as a replacement, and be owed the bonus, but there's no guarantees that he's getting there, of course.
 
idiot said:
I think the chances of a good Boston trade just decreased now that Jaylen Brown is not an all-star. Apparently Brown would be due $1.4M if he made the all-star team. This means that Boston now has a much easier path to get under the luxury tax (not only to save any tax, but also to participate in the $12M or so distribution teams who are under the tax will get after the season). The only reason a favorable trade with Boston made any sense is to help them get under the tax. But Brown's exclusion from the all-star team now means Boston has easier paths to get there (because they don't have to shed as much salary/there may be more partners available for them).

Brown could still make the team as a reserve, and be owed the bonus, but there's no guarantees that he's getting there, of course.
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Don't really see it changing things honestly. They could do a trade with us for a lot of reasons... to get some breathing room from the tax for next year for instance. They still have to do something and it almost certainly involves Schroeder.

I still doubt Smart is really available but maybe the extension scares them a lot. If they want to swap J Rich for JC the tax math is a little easier without the AS bump for Brown but they still have to move Nesmith or Schroeder for less salary.
 
I really like Josh Richardson for the Jazz. I like his ability to shoot off the dribble and score from mid-range. That's something we need.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Don't really see it changing things honestly. They could do a trade with us for a lot of reasons... to get some breathing room from the tax for next year for instance. They still have to do something and it almost certainly involves Schroeder.

I still doubt Smart is really available but maybe the extension scares them a lot. If they want to swap J Rich for JC the tax math is a little easier without the AS bump for Brown but they still have to move Nesmith or Schroeder for less salary.
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Boston's bench has very little shooting. They're a team that could actually use Clarkson, especially if they find a deal for Schroeder.
 
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