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The Knicks would love that ****. I'm just saying... I'd have traded Fox or Davion before Haliburton. He's a rare player and outside of a superstar he's a perfect building block. Just makes building a team so malleable.
I seriously don't think Pacers were dangling Sabonis in this deal and gave the Kings the choice between giving up Mitchell, Fox or Haliburton.
 
It sort of feels like we're either going to use Ingles' contract to get Josh Richardson or just use it in a salary dump with OKC, I think the salary dump is the more likely option. I don't see us making any other moves. Prepare to be frustrated and disappointed.
Frustrated and disappointed? Prepared? No need for preparation. It’s a part of the psyche of every Jazz fan by now.
 
right, basketball IQ is the biggest disparity in this case. Sabonis isn't really that good of a shooter(32% from deep this year and 32% the year before), but he definitely doesn't force things as much as Randle. Talent wise they are equal, but Sabonis plays more within himself

Sabonis is 65 TS% this year and Randle is at 51%. They really aren’t similar players at all. Sabonis is a play finisher who looks very bad when asked to do more than that. If he wasn’t playing with Holmes, I think he’s so very well for himself in SAC playing with a more dynamic PG like Fox. He’s not some superstar, but he’s getting paid $20M a year.

Randle is a shot creator who has really only been good for one season. He also doesn’t look good when the playoff spotlight is on him because he’s not the type of talent to carry an offense, but that’s how he plays.
 
He's rare... rare doesn't equal awesome though. He's really good... he also limits what you can do around him... Haliburton is also rare and good and can function in damn near any lineup and be awesome.

Use him as a two-guard, Wing or Point Guard. He's Joe Ingles but with athleticism.
I think Sabonis is the best player in the deal, but Sacramento has a lot more to do to make this trade worth it.

Mitchell, Barnes and Sabonis compliment each other quite well. They could stick with Fox at PG, but they really need a solid player at SF/PF. If they went out and got somebody like Jerami Grant, I guarantee nobody wants to play against Sacramento.
 
The Kings couldn't get Sabonis by trading Fox or Davion.
Then don't get him. Get something different. Or wait for the offseason. This is loud dumb for them.
 
I was actually referring to a salary dump as being disappointing...I think it's much more likely we do that than get Richardson.
it's a vicious cycle. the more assets we give up for salary dumps the less we have to make any further acquisition. the less likely we are to make any acquisition from the trade market, the more likelihood we are to just settle for more salary dumps.
 
The Kings are stuck with Fox and his $160 million contract. So if you are stuck with that, why not build a team around him that can let him do what he does best?

Davion getting more minutes at the 2 helps in the defense category. We know what Barnes can do. Holiday is also a good defender. Sabonis is going to stretch the floor so Fox can attack the rim. Sabonis is going to be for the Kings what they hoped Bagley was going to be.
 
I think Sabonis is the best player in the deal, but Sacramento has a lot more to do to make this trade worth it.

Mitchell, Barnes and Sabonis compliment each other quite well. They could stick with Fox at PG, but they really need a solid player at SF/PF. If they went out and got somebody like Jerami Grant, I guarantee nobody wants to play against Sacramento.
I want to play them every day all day. Sabonis is a nice player... the number one issue in Sacramento is defense... Sabonis makes that worse.

He's the best player in the deal this year... next year Tyrese very well may be better than him already and he is cheap the next two years and under team control after that... Sabonis has one year left after this one... Kings betting they can retain him... its just so bad all the way around and shows a complete lack of self awareness on their part.
 
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