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The notion that Conley can’t be #3 is ridiculous. His stats are very competitive with CP3. CP3 is a better playmaker but Conley is a much better shooter. Just stop with that crap.
Conley doesn't do **** in the playoffs. Look up those stats.

A combination of Conley, Bojan, Don and Rudy gets exposed on the perimeter in the playoffs. We need Bojan's floor spacing and size. We also need a great wing defender with size over an undersized guard who will probably be hurt for half of our games.

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I know competition hasn’t been that stiff as of late but I love the way the team is trending. I think a lot of you are freaking out due to how we were playing a month ago and a lot of that was on the shoulders of CJ and Mitchell. Both have been fan-damn-tastic as of late and the team is following I’ve even noticed CJ developing good chemistry with Whiteside. He’s improved his playmaking and is taking far less threes per game.
 
Conley doesn't do **** in the playoffs. Look up those stats.

A combination of Conley, Bojan, Don and Rudy gets exposed on the perimeter in the playoffs. We need Bojan's floor spacing and size. We also need a great wing defender with size over an undersized guard who will probably be hurt for half of our games.

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No matter what you do this team will get exposed in some way. Some of the defensive deficiencies are covered up by Gobert. We need Conley far more for playmaking and shooting, and he’s far from being our weakest perimeter defender. Take Conley off and our deficiencies are much worse on the offensive end. What you say makes no sense and can basically be translated as “just make a damn trade, and trading Conley would be most entertaining”

You have no basketball sense whatsoever.
 
Conley doesn't do **** in the playoffs. Look up those stats.
Conley missed most of the playoffs and wasn’t 100% and not in game shape when he did play. Last years issues vs the clips was horrendous perimeter defense and not all of our perimeter defenders were healthy, namely Conley and Mitchell.
 
I know competition hasn’t been that stiff as of late but I love the way the team is trending. I think a lot of you are freaking out due to how we were playing a month ago and a lot of that was on the shoulders of CJ and Mitchell. Both have been fan-damn-tastic as of late and the team is following I’ve even noticed CJ developing good chemistry with Whiteside. He’s improved his playmaking and is taking far less threes per game.
nah, what we need is a Jrue or Lonzo Ball typa point guard who can shoot but not ball-dominant and has the size/athleticism to guard 1-3.
 
I haven't felt that we'd make any big move (and my definition of big move here is anything that sends out one of our current rotation guys) for quite a while. Ainge throws a variable in that that I am totally uncertain on, but presuming no big move in terms of a trade, I'm also going to add on that we won't make any addition around the edges, either. Or at least that if we make that addition, it won't be relevant and it will effectively be like we didn't make that move. That's not to say it couldn't be a beneficial move, but we often talk about Quin and the sex machine, but really he's a guy who is very rigid and wants it scheduled and he wants very specific positions at very specific times and there can be no variance. Almost like the psychological profile of a serial kiIler. I believe there's a lot to glean from the Shaq situation. It's not to make a savior argument. We watched a fairly epic collapse, losing three straight games to Denver, in large part due to a complete inability to make anything difficult for Jamal Murray. We continued to see such trends and bringing in Shaq gave at least an option off the bench. Not even a "hey, you gotta play this guy 20 mpg" option, but just something that you could at least toy with over a season. We didn't see that. It wasn't that we got a small sample size. We didn't get anything at all.. There wasn't once that there was any experimentation at all of him being a guy you could bring in for any defensive purpose. It defaulted to garbage-time PG in all of his whopping 56 minutes played. All of them. Over the season, there was never any different approach Quin would take other than defaulting Royce as the "perimeter stopper." We played a series against LAC where we watched what Reggie Jackson did. We watched him effortlessly get to his spots and light us up. We watched it happen over the course of four straight losses with literally no adjustment. We also saw no utilization or experiementation with Ilyasova when it was apparent that Favors was nailed to the floor.

I can not conceivably think of any possible move in terms of signing that causes Quin to deviate in any fashion from what he does. If he isn't going to experiment even to an infinitismally small degree over the course of an entire season, and won't make any adjustment in a four-game, season-ending collapse, then he sure as **** isn't adjusting now or especially in the post-season to something he 'has not even tested out.'
 


A nice piece on Torrey Craig. The most realistic trade target on this Indiana team.

I forgot this guy has been suggested as a target, he'd make a lot of sense. I wonder not only what it would take, but who he'd replace.
Would he play or be valued ahead of Royce, Ingles, Gay, etc? Who would he rank ahead of, regardless of trade? I'm not sure. The potential
to play him along any of those three could answer a ton of problems.
 
Okay, I've had Marcus Smartacus lower on my wish list than others for a couple reasons, but this video quickly changed my mind.
I love JC but if it comes down to that, I'd lean towards pulling the trigger. While watching this, I realized it doesn't seem the jazz
have a coordinated or adaptable defense. This would help a lot.

 
Ainge has also been a head coach and so maybe Quin might not be quite so rigid with the new sheriff. He might try the bluff and have Ainge call BS on it by siting his own experiences. Perhaps Shaq Jr. might stand a chance if he is brought in.
 
Pacer fans seem to value Craig pretty low, he has two guys ahead of him that basically do what he does and moving him could save salary. I'd push hard to add him, it probably wouldn't cost a rotation player.
 
The Jazz need to keep Clarkson to play against switching defenses. The guys to move are Ingles and Gay. They're now both too old to be effective against long, athletic, switchy teams.
 
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