Trade deadline discussion

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On Zach Lowe's latest podcast, he and Tim MacMahon both seem to think that if we go out in the first round or the second round in disappointing fashion again, everything is on the table in the offseason short of trading Donovan. Lowe said he wouldn't do Ingles expiring and a first for Kenrich Williams or Gary Harris but he would do it for Marcus Smart.

 

[LoPo]

On Zach Lowe's latest podcast, he and Tim MacMahon both seem to think that if we go out in the first round or the second round in disappointing fashion again, everything is on the table in the offseason short of trading Donovan. Lowe said he wouldn't do Ingles expiring and a first for Kenrich Williams or Gary Harris but he would do it for Marcus Smart.

If we are going "all in", Ingles and a lightly protected 1st for Marcus Smart is good business.

If we do underachieve and go to blow it up in the summer, Smart still fits around Rudy and/or Donovan if we "retool" around one or both of them.

 

[Hekate]

I come back to the idea that Jazz do not need to change their starting line-up. It's true that there is a defensive problem there but it has proven to be effective despite that. I wouldn't want to mess with that at the deadline.

A player like Covington who you can insert into traditional and the small-ball line-up and expect impact makes more sense. Also allows better defense for offense substitutions at the end of games. Roco's feel and length would make it harder for opponents to put Rudy in the weakside corner. I feel Roco creates enough leeway for Rudy so he isn't stuck in no no man's land.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

On Zach Lowe's latest podcast, he and Tim MacMahon both seem to think that if we go out in the first round or the second round in disappointing fashion again, everything is on the table in the offseason short of trading Donovan. Lowe said he wouldn't do Ingles expiring and a first for Kenrich Williams or Gary Harris but he would do it for Marcus Smart.

I'm telling you guys... Ingles/Doke and a 2027 top 8 protected 1st for Kenny Hustle and Muscala... its as good of a dart throw as we have. Muscala has turned into prime locked in Mirotic... @infection go look at it. Solves an issue on the wing... solves the backup center issue. Then you can use Royce or the trade exception to address other needs.

I don't think Kenny gets a first by himself... they likely don't care much for some ****** seconds. If they can offload those guys it really aids the tank. We can even amend the pick protections on the other pick if need be. Adds win now guys while not breaking the budget for next year. Do it damn it.

 

[Ujfanatic]

If we are going "all in", Ingles and a lightly protected 1st for Marcus Smart is good business.

If we do underachieve and go to blow it up in the summer, Smart still fits around Rudy and/or Donovan if we "retool" around one or both of them.

Smart has a pretty ugly contract. Trading them an expiring gets them out of that. Not sure we are the ones that should be offering a lightly protected pick.

I also think Boston wants to compete, so if they’re trading Smart they want some value in return.

Also, if we trade for Smart we need to send Clarkson out. I wonder if there is a 3-team deal here somewhere. Maybe with Houston with Gordon going to Boston?

 

[LoPo]

Smart has a pretty ugly contract. Trading them an expiring gets them out of that. Not sure we are the ones that should be offering a lightly protected pick.

I also think Boston wants to compete, so if they’re trading Smart they want some value in return.

Also, if we trade for Smart we need to send Clarkson out. I wonder if there is a 3-team deal here somewhere. Maybe with Houston with Gordon going to Boston?

I'm pretty low on Clarkson right now, but if we really are going "all in", we can't trade somebody who might help us if he goes on one of his hot streaks. Some people think trading Clarkson is addition through subtraction, but I still think he's more of a positive than a negative. Especially since we lost Joe. That's one less guy that Quin can trust with the ball in his hands.

 

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[infection]

I'm telling you guys... Ingles/Doke and a 2027 top 8 protected 1st for Kenny Hustle and Muscala... its as good of a dart throw as we have. Muscala has turned into prime locked in Mirotic... @infection go look at it. Solves an issue on the wing... solves the backup center issue. Then you can use Royce or the trade exception to address other needs.

I don't think Kenny gets a first by himself... they likely don't care much for some ****** seconds. If they can offload those guys it really aids the tank. We can even amend the pick protections on the other pick if need be. Adds win now guys while not breaking the budget for next year. Do it damn it.

I really like this deal. I'd also like it if it's paired with a secondary move like getting Covington or Hart or Smart. If you were able to add two of those guys, you really need to move Royce, though I know that's not popular.

 

[LoPo]

Josh Richardson drawing trade interest from Utah Jazz: Should Celtics be open to deal?

Utah has a need at the wing after Joe Ingles tore his ACL earlier this week.

www.masslive.com

 

[cowhide]

Many Jazz fans like to give away first round draft picks like it is Halloween candy. I am a big no on Smart especially if we have to give away a first. Jazz are going to be bad when Rudy ages out in a few years. Bogey could be gone, JC, Royce isn't getting any younger. Conley too. The Jazz have already thrown away several first round picks and now people want to send more out. How are the Jazz going to rebuild if they have no picks left? Jazz would be doing Celtics a favor taking Smart because of his contract and his bad attitude. His shooting is inconsistent too. Jazz are not championship team right now. They now have some minutes for a player. I would sign House. Play Butler some so he can adjust to the game. Maybe give Huges some minutes. I don't think there is a player who the Jazz can obtain that would make a substantial improvement. I wouldn't mind Eric Gordon if we could get rid of JC. Don't know if there is any interest. Roco is not worth giving up a first round pick.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

This explains a lot... Joe's ACLs would never let his legacy get tarnished by getting traded to the Kings.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I really like this deal. I'd also like it if it's paired with a secondary move like getting Covington or Hart or Smart. If you were able to add two of those guys, you really need to move Royce, though I know that's not popular.

We won't do it because its too NBA twitter. Neither guys are name brand and giving a first for a non-name brand player is not how you win the press conference. I do think it could have a wild effect. Muscala actually plays the drop and can move really well. I think he could play a little with Rudy if needed but he's a true stretch big. Like if Lauri Markannen was putting up his per minute numbers people would be going nuts.

Kenny is the perfect in between player and now that Joe is done we really need that. He might be a defensive savant based on his on/off numbers. They could also just be really wonky. He also might be the second coming of Alex Caruso (different types of players obvi) where he is actually like an all-nba level defender but because he looks a little different or it isn't obvious like with GPII you dismiss it.