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Trade for Ben Simmons

Saint Cy of JFC said:
If Ben Simmons at the 5 was so viable and elite, why don't the Sixers stagger Simmons/Embiid and not play Howard?
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He is not a rim protector. He is really a good perimeter defender but his size doesn’t translate in the paint.

Ben at the 5 should be an elite roll man but then you need an initiator and shooting around it... I think it would be an offense only strategy and not sure it’s better than going 5 out with a solid but not amazing 5 like Kelly Olynyk.

I listen to The Rights to Ricky Sanchez guys a lot because they are funny and just hilarious when bad things happen to the sixers. They are so frustrated with his limitations... he needs to go to a team that has sucked and explore the space a bit. I don’t think he’s a guy you want on a team trying to win a title. Either a lotto team or a team that hasn’t made the playoffs forever. Like maybe Minny or like Sacramento can build something where he can maximize his abilities.
 
homeytennis said:
He had been defending him all year and was asked if Ben could be a playoff quality point guard Doc said "I don't know."
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Cuz Doc knows either he goes under the bus or Ben does. Joel killed him too.

I think Doc was there before Morey... guessing there will be a change there this year or next.
 
homeytennis said:
He had been defending him all year and was asked if Ben could be a playoff quality point guard Doc said "I don't know."
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He also asked if Ben would be their PG going forward, and he also said he didn't know. Ouch.

I don't think Ben is the answer. If he would be more dominant on offense and could get to 70% from the FT line, maybe. He is an excellent defender, but too much of a liability on offense, especially when you imagine Ben and Gobert on the court at the same time.

I think Simmons could be gotten cheap, his salary and what we'd have to move to make a trade work is the problem.
 
White Chocolate said:
His value will never be lower. We should call Philadelphia as soon as possible.

Bogdanovic/Clarkson/30 for Simmons

Maybe Conley wants to go there and we keep pick 30 in the deal by adding Conley.

Simmons fits our timeline and he is a great defender. I know he isn’t a favorite around here but it’s definitely worth exploring.
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I am ill just reading this. Are you out of your mind?
 
I think Ben Simmons would actually look pretty good on our team in Oni's role. Would we have to pay his salary or could Philly loan him to us like they do in soccer?
 
infection said:
I think Ben Simmons would actually look pretty good on our team in Oni's role. Would we have to pay his salary or could Philly loan him to us like they do in soccer?
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Agreed. Ben would look great sitting on the bench for the entirety of 90% of our games and playing like 6 minutes in the other 10%.

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On paper, offensively Ben Simmons running the pick and roll as ball handler from the 5 spot, either being guarded by the 5 man who most likely can’t guard him and having 4 40% shooters surrounding, or being guarded by someone smaller and just crashing to the rim every time… seems really tantalizing (if he could realize the potential). Easy to forget how he annihilated us in SLC without Embiid but that’s exactly what happened.

I don’t get hung up on the doucheyness as much. I think he fronts a lot for sure and I think he could be a beast if pushed in the right direction. A lot of “ifs” there but it’s not everyday a multi time all star becomes available for possibly pennies on the dollar so it’s not the craziest idea in the world.
 
jope said:
On paper, offensively Ben Simmons running the pick and roll as ball handler from the 5 spot, either being guarded by the 5 man who most likely can’t guard him and having 4 40% shooters surrounding, or being guarded by someone smaller and just crashing to the rim every time… seems really tantalizing (if he could realize the potential). Easy to forget how he annihilated us in SLC without Embiid but that’s exactly what happened.

I don’t get hung up on the doucheyness as much. I think he fronts a lot for sure and I think he could be a beast if pushed in the right direction. A lot of “ifs” there but it’s not everyday a multi time all star becomes available for possibly pennies on the dollar so it’s not the craziest idea in the world.
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He should be viewed as a something like a poor(broke?)-man's Giannis, and would benefit from a roster built along similar principles.
As to who the next Brook Lopez is that falls out of the sky is a real question, but that's what you look for.
 
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