Trade Gordo + Trey for the #3?

[fishonjazz]

Thomas is also possibly a position of need (depending on exum) and is under contract through the 17-18 season for 6 million dollars (wow that is a lot cheaper than I expected)

 

[Stoked]

LockedonJazz talking about if the Jazz should go for the #2 pick this draft and Bradley Beal. Didn't listen myself but for those interested...

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Thomas is also possibly a position of need (depending on exum) and is under contract through the 17-18 season for 6 million dollars (wow that is a lot cheaper than I expected)

I'm not sure they would do either of those guys with the third pick... I highly doubt they'd do both... If they did we should take it and run though.

 

[fishonjazz]

If they offered that I'd take it... but they wouldn't go that far. Crowder's contract status would be the reason to do that. They'd probably give up Bradley because he's redundant, but I doubt they'd give up any other meaningful win now pieces.

Ya I don't think they would do it either.
Hell, they might not even do a hayward for Thomas trade straight up after looking at their numbers and salaries.

 

[fishonjazz]

I'm not sure they would do either of those guys with the third pick... I highly doubt they'd do both... If they did we should take it and run though.

I agree. No chance ainge would do it since he seems to be famous for fleecing other teams.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

LockedonJazz talking about if the Jazz should go for the #2 pick this draft and Bradley Beal. Didn't listen myself but for those interested...

I did... Beal goes no where. It works off the assumption that Washington thinks they can still get Durant. They will match our max offer.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I agree. No chance ainge would do it since he seems to be famous for fleecing other teams.

I do think his trigger finger is getting antsy though... I think he might give up serious draft assets for Hayward and if we hit on the picks we'd come out ahead... But it's more of the patience and development model that we are all kind of sick of.

 

[NAOS]

There was that rumor that Ainge was willing to bleed out teh *** for Justice Winslow.

 

[fishonjazz]

Second, I love Crowder, but he's overrated right now. Brad Stevens is one of the best offensive coaches in the league. Quin is not. So these guys numbers are a bit inflated IMO, kinda like how role players under Jerry always regressed under other teams.

Third, IT is a good player, in his role. He's a 6th man, scoring option. But he doesn't play defense. In rare circumstances you can do alright with that kind of player, like Boston did, but they just did alright. Never will you have a contending team with a player like that unless you have a LeBron, Durant, type of player around him.

In short, we're overvaluing Boston players because of Brad Stevens, and undervaluing Gordon Hayward, who is really freaking good, because Quin is an awful offensive coach so far.

This part of your post might all be true and I think you have a really good basketball mind so I lean towards agreeing with you.

It is speculation though. I could speculate that Thomas and favors would be amazing in the pick n roll (Maybe quin changes his offense to utilize Thomas skills) and Thomas would score less, but more efficiently, and get more assists and turn favors into an all star. His dribble penetration would be great to get hood and lyles great looks from three and defenders would have to leave rudy to defend Thomas drive game allowing rudy to get lots of offensive rebound put backs (dribble penetration has been lacking in the jazz offense imo).

I could speculate that favors is better than griffin cause he is the much better defender and if he had a point guard like cp3 his offensive game would take off.

It's hard to say what any player would do on any other team.

I do trust you opinion to be a good one though and maybe hayward on Boston would be averaging 25 points and 7 assists and be an all star leading his team to the playoffs (I think the latter two are actually very likely)

 

[Stoked]

I did... Beal goes no where. It works off the assumption that Washington thinks they can still get Durant. They will match our max offer.

So maybe. Thanks for the info.

 

[RandyForRubio]

This part of your post might all be true and I think you have a really good basketball mind so I lean towards agreeing with you.

It is speculation though. I could speculate that Thomas and favors would be amazing in the pick n roll (Maybe quin changes his offense to utilize Thomas skills) and Thomas would score less, but more efficiently, and get more assists and turn favors into an all star. His dribble penetration would be great to get hood and lyles great looks from three and defenders would have to leave rudy to defend Thomas drive game allowing rudy to get lots of offensive rebound put backs (dribble penetration has been lacking in the jazz offense imo).

I could speculate that favors is better than griffin cause he is the much better defender and if he had a point guard like cp3 his offensive game would take off.

It's hard to say what any player would do on any other team.

I do trust you opinion to be a good one though and maybe hayward on Boston would be averaging 25 points and 7 assists and be an all star leading his team to the playoffs (I think the latter two are actually very likely)

Boston averaged a little over 100 possessions a game. We averaged 93, which is piss poor btw. I'm in a tractor in a field right now, so I can't look it up, but I think the best statistical comparison for them would be 100 POS and not per40 or per36. Evens out the pacing a little bit.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Strike what I said about the 100/pos. I was wrong. Maybe a better one would be pace adjusted per36/40.
[MENTION=578]franklin[/MENTION], you're better with statistics than me. Any thoughts from your non-trolling persona.




/practically none of us know basketball like Frank does