Trade Partners for TB

[da ThRONe]

He never freaking "blows by people", he can rarely get around the big on a switched pick and roll. He is a bottom tier athlete for NBA PGs.

PS: you answered none of my questions. Matters not if Paul or Conley can dunk, the issue was whether he is athletic. Dunking is one of the key indicators of athleticism. How does he do running, if ever, a fast break? Pushing the pace?

I said watch his highlight video someone already embedded on the forum. You see him blow by people throughout. That's answering your question. As for dunking some players see it as a waste of energy as dunks and layups all count the same. I've seen Trey dunk in a vine from when he was in the Philippines.

 

[orangello]

Never said he has trade value. In my opinion he is addition by subtraction. But who is willing to take on his salary?

I agree. Just like Kanter.

 

[da ThRONe]

Pop quiz. What PG posted these numbers his 3rd year in the league as a 1st time starter.

31.7mpg 7.9fga 36.3fg% 37.4 3pt%, 1.2fta, 5.5asp, 2.2to's, .9spg, with a whopping PER of 10.9

 

[da ThRONe]

I agree. Just like Kanter.

Kanter had spoken out publicly about his displeasure and was in his fourth season. Not quite the same.

 

[orangello]

I'm going with Philly. If you can't get a 1st rounder for Burke from Philly (and I doubt they will), then you push for two early 2nd rounders. Preferably in 2016 and 2017.

 

[orangello]

Kanter had spoken out publicly about his displeasure and was in his fourth season. Not quite the same.

Not at all what I was referring to either. Go look at Burke's offensive rating and defensive rating. He is a negative on both sides of the ball. Having him gone means that you don't have to play him and you will help your team win games by doing that.

 

[Ron Mexico]

He never freaking "blows by people", he can rarely get around the big on a switched pick and roll. He is a bottom tier athlete for NBA PGs.

PS: you answered none of my questions. Matters not if Paul or Conley can dunk, the issue was whether he is athletic. Dunking is one of the key indicators of athleticism. How does he do running, if ever, a fast break? Pushing the pace?

Trey Burke dunked in college, he dunks now and then in warmup. He can dunk, so is he athletic now to you? Personally I think anyone who is listed at 6'0 that can dunk is athletic. Although I think he is closer to 5"10 or 11.

Google Trey Burke dunk you will find plenty of videos. Watch his highlight reel from this year he blows by plenty of players. He doesnt have elite speed but he is not the bottom of the league. He has enough speed to get by people and good handle, which is more important for a PG imo. He does push the ball on fast breaks. He didnt for a long time until the coaching staff pushed him to do this more, still needs to improve in this area, especially passing on fast breaks.

There are plenty of things to dislike about Trey's game but the blind hate is silly. People claiming he isnt going to make it in the NBA or that he is the worst player in the league is silly.

 

[da ThRONe]

Not at all what I was referring to either. Go look at Burke's offensive rating and defensive rating. He is a negative on both sides of the ball. Having him gone means that you don't have to play him and you will help your team win games by doing that.

Don't get defensive just be specific with your comments. The mere fact that kanter had another season as a pro makes it different. Not to mention Burke due to injury was asked by the coaching staff to be more aggressive. Kanter was that aggressive even without said injuries.

 

[da ThRONe]

Trey Burke dunked in college, he dunks now and then in warmup. He can dunk, so is he athletic now to you? Personally I think anyone who is listed at 6'0 that can dunk is athletic. Although I think he is closer to 5"10 or 11.

Google Trey Burke dunk you will find plenty of videos. Watch his highlight reel from this year he blows by plenty of players. He doesnt have elite speed but he is not the bottom of the league. He has enough speed to get by people and good handle, which is more important for a PG imo. He does push the ball on fast breaks. He didnt for a long time until the coaching staff pushed him to do this more, still needs to improve in this area, especially passing on fast breaks.

There are plenty of things to dislike about Trey's game but the blind hate is silly. People claiming he isnt going to make it in the NBA or that he is the worst player in the league is silly.

This is the part that I don't understand as well. Burke has shot the ball like crap, and been either bad or subpar on defense his whole career. No need to go into hyperbole mode.

 

[orangello]

Don't get defensive just be specific with your comments. The mere fact that kanter had another season as a pro makes it different. Not to mention Burke due to injury was asked by the coaching staff to be more aggressive. Kanter was that aggressive even without said injuries.

You're blowing this way out of proportion. My comment was that getting rid of Burke was addition by subtraction.

After that you ran with what you thought I meant and it wasn't at all what I meant.

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[gregbroncs]

If you did not see improvement in Burkes defense after he got benched and changed his effort level a lot on defense then you either did not watch the games towards the end of the season or your blind with hatred towards Burke.

I agree he improved. But he was still a below average defender against backup PG's. Nothing else in his game improved except his # of points and shot attempts. He was asked to be a bench scorer so I'll even give him that one. This year we don't need him to be a bench scorer so what does he bring to the table? What is it that screams average NBA player? I see nothing. As I said I'd be fine with cutting him altogether. I'd prefer they find a trade for him even if it's for very little. I have no fear that he'll ever come back to bite us if he leaves.

 

[zman1527]

I said watch his highlight video someone already embedded on the forum. You see him blow by people throughout. That's answering your question. As for dunking some players see it as a waste of energy as dunks and layups all count the same. I've seen Trey dunk in a vine from when he was in the Philippines.

I watched a lot of games, that is more significant than a highlight reel that can make anyone look a HOFer. TB is slow and unathletic. He does not "blow by" people, he does not dunk, he is very poor on the fastbreak opportunities.