Trade Partners for TB

[FalseFlagg K]

Trey Burke dunked in college, he dunks now and then in warmup. He can dunk, so is he athletic now to you? Personally I think anyone who is listed at 6'0 that can dunk is athletic. Although I think he is closer to 5"10 or 11.

Google Trey Burke dunk you will find plenty of videos. Watch his highlight reel from this year he blows by plenty of players. He doesnt have elite speed but he is not the bottom of the league. He has enough speed to get by people and good handle, which is more important for a PG imo. He does push the ball on fast breaks. He didnt for a long time until the coaching staff pushed him to do this more, still needs to improve in this area, especially passing on fast breaks.

There are plenty of things to dislike about Trey's game but the blind hate is silly. People claiming he isnt going to make it in the NBA or that he is the worst player in the league is silly.

lol "still needs to improve on fast breaks" is like saying Donald Trump needs to work on humility ... I'm sorry but TB is short, slow for a 6 ft NBA guard, an average shooter and passer at best and terrible defender but worst of all doesn't understand or play within his limitations. His only hope is if he severely curtails his shot attempts and purely becomes a facilitator point guard. He has a good handle on the ball. 10-15 mins as a backup bringing the ball and setting up the better players and only shooting good open shots and i'd be very happy with him as a backup but i don't see him accepting that.

 

[Ron Mexico]

I think if Trey becomes a knock down shooter like he was in college over the next two seasons he will be a great fit on our bench. We have hood or Burks to score and facilitate if needed in the second unit. The best fit at PG for our second unit is a good shooter. Maybe that never happens but he has a chance to do that. No reason to cut or trade for nothing a player that is not costing us that much. We can give him time to develop, unless a good trade comes along. He has also shown that he listens to the coaching staff we have and makes adjustments. He worked a lot on the mid range floater that was inconsistent last season but improving throughout the season that the coaching staff made a priority for him last off season.

Glad our coaching staff and FO are not as impatient as this board is with a player who would have just finished his senior year of college had he not come out early.

He accepted a role as backup and played hard and showed improvement. He has shown no reason why he wouldn't accept a different role or work on different aspects of the game. He has been a pretty class act with how he has handled everything.

Why not see what he does between the start of the season and the trade deadline? Very low risk high reward to let him show if he improved and raise his trade value or prove to be a good backup pg.

 

[gregbroncs]

I think if Trey becomes a knock down shooter like he was in college over the next two seasons he will be a great fit on our bench. We have hood or Burks to score and facilitate if needed in the second unit. The best fit at PG for our second unit is a good shooter. Maybe that never happens but he has a chance to do that. No reason to cut or trade for nothing a player that is not costing us that much. We can give him time to develop, unless a good trade comes along. He has also shown that he listens to the coaching staff we have and makes adjustments. He worked a lot on the mid range floater that was inconsistent last season but improving throughout the season that the coaching staff made a priority for him last off season.

Glad our coaching staff and FO are not as impatient as this board is with a player who would have just finished his senior year of college had he not come out early.

He accepted a role as backup and played hard and showed improvement. He has shown no reason why he wouldn't accept a different role or work on different aspects of the game. He has been a pretty class act with how he has handled everything.

Why not see what he does between the start of the season and the trade deadline? Very low risk high reward to let him show if he improved and raise his trade value or prove to be a good backup pg.

My main answer to this is because we have a player that is showing to have far more potential and has more NBA quality skills, in Cotton. If we didn't have Cotton I'd be all for giving Burke another year. I believe that year is better spent developing the better player with a higher ceiling.

 

[Ron Mexico]

My main answer to this is because we have a player that is showing to have far more potential and has more NBA quality skills, in Cotton. If we didn't have Cotton I'd be all for giving Burke another year. I believe that year is better spent developing the better player with a higher ceiling.

I dont think Cotton will outplay Burke, I guess we will see when the season starts. I also dont think Cotton will ever be a good shooter. Him and Burks coming off the bench together seems like a bad fit. Time will tell I guess.

Also it hurts nothing to let these two compete for the backup spot during the regular season for awhile. Especially compared to your suggestion of dumping Burke. If Cotton outplays him consistently he will earn more minutes and then you can still dump Burke. Again 0 reason to get rid of a young player who has a lot invested in him for nothing.

 

[gregbroncs]

I dont think Cotton will outplay Burke, I guess we will see when the season starts. I also dont think Cotton will ever be a good shooter. Him and Burks coming off the bench together seems like a bad fit. Time will tell I guess.

Also it hurts nothing to let these two compete for the backup spot during the regular season for awhile. Especially compared to your suggestion of dumping Burke. If Cotton outplays him consistently he will earn more minutes and then you can still dump Burke. Again 0 reason to get rid of a young player who has a lot invested in him for nothing.

I don't think dumping him for nothing is what will or should happen. I wouldn't care if it did though. And Cotton is already outplaying anything Burke did in summer league. While also showing NBA skills Burke doesn't and will most likely never have. Move Burke to 3rd string PG and you might as well cut him.

 

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Tim Montemayor ‏@TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago

I was able to confirm by two agents that the Jazz did have Trey Burke in draft and post draft trade conversation for wing players @1320KFAN

Tim Montemayor ‏@TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago

Agents I spoke to feel strongly Burke has value but Dennis Lindsey was unwavering in his asking price, and would not include future 1st rd

Tim Montemayor ‏@TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago

I get the strong impression from people I've spoken to that Dennis Lindsey is widely respected around the league and is a tough negotiator

Tim Montemayor ‏@TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago

Of the agents I spoke to the #Jazz describe Burke as no longer being a fit but not a problem for the club

 

[da ThRONe]

My main answer to this is because we have a player that is showing to have far more potential and has more NBA quality skills, in Cotton. If we didn't have Cotton I'd be all for giving Burke another year. I believe that year is better spent developing the better player with a higher ceiling.

The idea that Cotton has more "NBA skill" than Burke is funny to me. Burke has had a number of big games in NBA games that matter. On top of being a lottery pick compared to an undrafted guy. Not to say Cotton can't be the better player however there's no logical reason to support this notion.

 

[gregbroncs]

The idea that Cotton has more "NBA skill" than Burke is funny to me. Burke has had a number of big games in NBA games that matter. On top of being a lottery pick compared to an undrafted guy. Not to say Cotton can't be the better player however there's no logical reason to support this notion.

Faster, More athletic, Better at attacking the basket, better defender, and far better passer. All helpful skills to have as an NBA PG. Cotton has had far fewer opportunities than Burke but has also had some big games in the NBA. Burke's big games are far too few and far between. He's just like CJ Miles, shows flashes but overall a player that does not perform up to the standard he needs to. I don't know if Cotton will be better than Burke or not. I don't think he could be much worse. And the potential is there to be far better. I don't see any potential in Burke.

 

[gregbroncs]

The stats that I posted earlier was from Steve Nash's 3rd year in the league. Two teams gave up on Nash. Luckily for Phoenix they got him back. It's insane to think a player that spent two years in college in two more as a pro is finished developing. I can understand the pessimism as it relates to Burke. But a lot of the comments just come off as illogical hate.

Cool you found an exception to a rule. Now should we look up and post stats from the 10,000 guys that played like **** their first 2-3 years and never did anything after? One guy does nothing to support your argument.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Cool you found an exception to a rule. Now should we look up and post stats from the 10,000 guys that played like **** their first 2-3 years and never did anything after? One guy does nothing to support your argument.

Conclusion: we gave up too early on Kevin Murphy
and Jimmer Fredette still has a chance to become an all-star.

 

[Ron Mexico]

This is as good of place as any. Trey Burke has been invited to USA Basketball mini camp.

Sources told ESPN.com that USAB has extended invitations to Chicago's Jimmy Butler, Memphis ' Mike Conley, Golden State's Draymond Green and Harrison Barnes, Orlando's Tobias Harris and Victor Oladipo and Utah's Trey Burke to its Aug. 11-13 camp on the campus of UNLV.

https://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13258034/usa-basketball-invites-new-players-interested-playing-2016-olympic-team-august-minicamp

 

[fishonjazz]

He's just like CJ Miles

That's an insult to cj miles