Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[TheGoldStandard]

It would warm my heart to see Rudy's league leading defense bring a team playoff wins, wherever that might happen.

Lopo is fascinated with a one dimensional offensive middleweight vs a literal generational defensive talent. Generational? It might go beyond that. Rudy is a one of a kind defensive player.

It may not translate for the ESPN highlight NBA fans out there, but Rudy is the Jazz MVP and it isn't close.

I truly think Rudy would be a dominating beast with Golden State. I'd probably have to watch their games.

 

[LoPo]

And you need to realize that many of the things you say are nonsense. We play a VERY modern style of basketball. We were the top offensive team in basketball during the regular season… there isn’t a lot more we can improve on there and trading Mike or Bogey or Rudy likely hurts us on offense… whatever defensive improvements we make on the wing have a low chance of making up for the defensive loss of Rudy… and all the dumb faith in the world ain’t changing that ****.

Our #1 regular season offense might be the most worthless stat of them all. Really paid off when the playoffs came around.....

You're a really good, smart poster on this forum. I'm blown away how you don't see how clearly our systems are objectified come playoff time. Without a 5 out lineup we trust, we ain't going anywhere. That's modern basketball - everybody can shoot and everybody can decently switch.



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[Rubashov]

Can anyone tell me why Duncan Robinson isnt playing at all?

Kind of insane he had a crazy as **** Game 1 in the first round where he was a +16, then the Heat just bench him. Was his defense really that bad?

he's getting absolutely torched on defensive rotations and the 76ers are hunting him, he can't stay in front of anyone. He'll be top of the Jazz target list this off season, especially with his contract.

 

[One Brow]

Well, a simple Google search of Brunson on Rudy in our series shows multiple videos where Brunson isos on Rudy, gets Rudy to the paint, toys with Rudy, then finishes.

There'll be plenty where Brunson has to put up a terrible shot or back out of the paint entirely. You can't ever force 0% shooting.

I'm just sick and tired of watching all of the Jazz fail defensively come playoff time then gradually the narrative changes to Rudy played awesome and nothing was his fault.

I don't see anyone saying nothing was Gobert's fault.

Did you come up with an offensively challenged center worth $40M when they were under 30 yet?

 

[One Brow]

Bruh, it's Lopo arguing with me. I did not engage with this weasel.

You can choose to not respond.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

You can choose to not respond.

I dont have that kind of willpower.

 

[LoPo]

There'll be plenty where Brunson has to put up a terrible shot or back out of the paint entirely. You can't ever force 0% shooting.


I don't see anyone saying nothing was Gobert's fault.

Did you come up with an offensively challenged center worth $40M when they were under 30 yet?

I didn't find any offensively limited center in the history of the game worth $40 million in any era at any age.

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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Of all the teams in the league, the Hawks are the most desperate to improve their defense, and they can probably muster enough value in a trade for Gobert.

The Blazers also desperately need to improve their defense, and need to put another quality player next to Lillard. If their lottery pick stays in the 6 - 8 range, they're a possibility.

Bulls and Nets need to improve their interior defense, but they don't really have the pieces to trade for Gobert.

Toronto has reported interest in Gobert, but they're going to be tough to fleece. I'm not sure a package around OG and GTJ really gets a trade done. Involving Siakam and a third team might though.

Charlotte needs a 5 in a big way, but a package or Rozier, Oubre, PJ Washington, plus #13 and #15 feels like a lot of meh. I don't think that would get it done.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I'm personally still most bullish on the idea of trading Gobert to Charlotte for their picks in the teens plus whatever. I think you could sell simply drafting with the picks as an investment in keeping Donovan (and also a start to the inevitable rebuild) since I think there are some real good looking prospects likely to still be on the board for both picks.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Our #1 regular season offense might be the most worthless stat of them all. Really paid off when the playoffs came around.....

You're a really good, smart poster on this forum. I'm blown away how you don't see how clearly our systems are objectified come playoff time. Without a 5 out lineup we trust, we ain't going anywhere. That's modern basketball - everybody can shoot and everybody can decently switch.



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Donovan shot 20% from three… our offense was elite in the previous post season. I am smart because I consider everything rather than fan boying one of our players. No system can overcome the amount of ****** shooting we had. 5 out won’t work if your guards shoot 25% from three. The post season offense hasn’t been nearly as big of an issue as the post season defense. We gonna be a good offense but maybe not better… we gonna be a worse defense in the regular season for sure. Maybe we are able to play different styles but to make up for Rudy being gone you will need at least one great defensive wing and a couple other good ones… and they will need to be able to shoot… good luck.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm personally still most bullish on the idea of trading with Charlotte for their picks in the teens plus whatever. I think you could sell simply drafting with the picks as an investment in keeping Donovan (and also a pivot) since I think there are some real good looking prospects likely to still be on the board for both picks.

I agree but the reports are a bit troubling that we’d just be looking to package picks for win now players. The draft is the only way to hopefully get the quality of players we need and it’s very unlikely those guys are ready when Donovan’s here… but if I was Ainge that’s how I’d position it because a quick pivot/retool is such a fools errand.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Of all the teams in the league, the Hawks are the most desperate to improve their defense, and they can probably muster enough value in a trade for Gobert.

The Blazers also desperately need to improve their defense, and need to put another quality player next to Lillard. If their lottery pick stays in the 6 - 8 range, they're a possibility.

Bulls and Nets need to improve their interior defense, but they don't really have the pieces to trade for Gobert.

Toronto has reported interest in Gobert, but they're going to be tough to fleece. I'm not sure a package around OG and GTJ really gets a trade done. Involving Siakam and a third team might though.

If anyone gets "fleeced" in a Gobert trade, it's going to be the Jazz.