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Agreed. We really short-changed JB and he could have had an impact if we had actually worked to prepare him for some minutes in the playoffs. No way in hell he would have been worse than what we already had on the floor.
Especially since Forrest was never going to be able to play in the playoffs with his shooting issues. Thybulle is as disruptive of a defender as there is and Philly couldn't leave him out there because they straight ignore him.

It was just weird how he had such a good pre-season and Quin went out of his way to throw cold water on him and any hype... rather than embracing his play and praising him... he was super annoyed by the JB questions. It reminded me of Doc Rivers and Paul Reed a little. Doc fought playing him all year and he ended up being the best option behind Embiid and it wasn't close.

Coaches hate guys that make mistakes and it seemed like Forrest was spending 90% of his time out there just trying not to eff up.
 
Your decisions are on you. I did nothing but defend one of our players to unreasonable criticism while trying to hold every player accountable for their faults in our demise.

You chose Rudy over Don. I had nothing to do with it.
This is too much. You brought up Kleber’s 8-12 3pt shooting and posted a video where Gobert was drawn into the paint where Dons man went completely by him, and if not for Gobert, it would’ve been a layup drill shot, and that’s how you defend Mitchell. You are a weasel!!! Is that what you call reasonable criticism of Goberts game? Because all that shows is Mitchell throwing Gobert under the bus when in that situation Don or someone else is supposed to rotate onto Kleber.

You are so far off the reservation it’s not funny.
 
This is too much. You brought up Kleber’s 8-12 3pt shooting and posted a video where Gobert was drawn into the paint where Dons man went completely by him, and if not for Gobert, it would’ve been a layup drill shot, and that’s how you defend Mitchell. You are a weasel!!! Is that what you call reasonable criticism of Goberts game? Because all that shows is Mitchell throwing Gobert under the bus when in that situation Don or someone else is supposed to rotate onto Kleber.

You are so far off the reservation it’s not funny.
The entire point of my posts last night was that everybody got exposed by Dallas. Even yalls white knight Rudy.

"If not for Rudy".... maybe we play a real NBA defense instead of Rudy patrolling the paint while Rudy's guy shoots wide open 3s.

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Clarkson should be shopped as well. If we keep Don and Rudy, everyone else needs to be on the table to try and improve the roster around them.

I would keep Clarkson, actually. I think his trade value is going to hold pretty steady for another year, and the Jazz will need some guard depth if they move Conley.

I could actually see Clarkson being one of the last players standing after most everyone else is traded and rotated out. Kind of like Brandon Stark at the end of Game of Thrones.
 
The entire point of my posts last night was that everybody got exposed by Dallas. Even yalls white knight Rudy.

"If not for Rudy".... maybe we play a real NBA defense instead of Rudy patrolling the paint while Rudy's guy shoots wide open 3s.

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You think because we have Rudy, we have to defend a specific way.

The reality is because we have trash perimeter defenders, Rudy has to defend a specific way.
 
Which...

A - suits him best which is why we do it
and
B - can be manipulated and exposed by teams who can successfully run a 5 out roster


Trade Rudy. We need a new direction.
I guess the other frustrating thing with talking to Lopo is that I feel like it's borderline impossible to dumb my post down enough in a way where he can understand it.
 
I guess the other frustrating thing with talking to Lopo is that I feel like it's borderline impossible to dumb my post down enough in a way where he can understand it.
Just talk to me dude and stop looking for followers.

You're saying that we run the defense we run because we have to run the defense we run because everybody else sucks at defense. Am I right?

I'm saying that Rudy is very good at what he does, but what he does won't translate to the playoffs unless we were playing with like 3 Scottie Pippens and Donovan Mitchell.

The reality is probably something in the middle, and we don't have the ability to improve the roster enough around Rudy to make it worth it. Trade him while he has value.
 
Which...

A - suits him best which is why we do it
and
B - can be manipulated and exposed by teams who can successfully run a 5 out roster


Trade Rudy. We need a new direction.
You don’t know basketball period. No sense in having a real discussion or argument with you when 1. You’re wrong but dig in because you know you’re wrong, or 2. You don’t know basketball, like at all!!
 
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