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Lonzo is like a 1 of 1 player. You arent going to find defensive 1st guards w/ plus size who can play either guard spot, make your teammates better on both ends, shoot volume 3s at a high percentage, can defend multiple positions, make your team play faster ,etc.

Giving up late first and gambling on his health is a bargain if it's on the table. I doubt it is.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I think you are taking an extremely doomer position on Ball's health and really playing the worst case scenario out in your head. He has immense value and his current health situation isnt dire enough to erase that.
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Not really. He had a surgery with a 6-8 week timetable for return last year. He has a bone bruise in his knee... he experienced discomfort every time he ramped up to basketball running activities... he wasn't able to get healthy in 8 months and now he had to have a surgery again a week before training camp. Also he misses 30 games a year...

I think you are very much dismissing this as nothing to see. Talent ain't worth **** if it on the bench.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Not really. He had a surgery with a 6-8 week timetable for return last year. He has a bone bruise in his knee... he experienced discomfort every time he ramped up to basketball running activities... he wasn't able to get healthy in 8 months and now he had to have a surgery again a week before training camp. Also he misses 30 games a year...

I think you are very much dismissing this as nothing to see. Talent ain't worth **** if it on the bench.
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He's still playing basketball games and is only 24 (or 25 or going on 25 soon, idk). He hasnt torn his ACL or achilles. He isnt on the Jonathan Isaac level (maybe a guy Jazz should also try to go after) of not playing due to consistent injuries.

Is it worrying? Sure.

Is he still incredibly valuable and worth the risk? Abso****inglutely.
 
jazzfan1132 said:
A source close to Bojan Bogdanovic tells the Tribune that he expects to be traded soon. Michael Scotto agrees: “A lot of executives around the league are expecting Bojan Bogdanovic to be the next guy for the Jazz to get moved. … Bogdanovic is the next domino that most people think is going to fall for Utah.”

Is there any other rumor besides LAL an PHX.
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Teams including New York, Dallas, Atlanta and Milwaukee have had interest at various times, reportedly. Not sure they'd have what it takes to make a deal though.
 
Yeah Lonzo is on my DND list on fantasy this year. Injury is concerning and how effective will he be when he comes back.
 
NUMBERICA said:
He is?
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He has only played under 41 games (half the season) once in his career.

I'm not saying he is a shining beacon of health, but he hasnt been completely unavailable and he isnt paid enough to the point (especially for a team like the Jazz) where it would concern me at all.

You take the risk if all it cost is dead salary (which Conley is at this point, no one is taking him for an expiring swap) and two late first, you do it IMO.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
He has only played under 41 games (half the season) once in his career.

I'm not saying he is a shining beacon of health, but he hasnt been completely unavailable and he isnt paid enough to the point (especially for a team like the Jazz) where it would concern me at all.

You take the risk if all it cost is dead salary (which Conley is at this point, no one is taking him for an expiring swap) and two late first, you do it IMO.
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K, but he’s not playing games and his injury(s) hasn’t healed which go back months and months.

Knees don’t always get better, especially if he’s lost meniscus in his knee.
 
Could the Nets and Wolves '23 pick amount to some great player? Maybe? I would put a higher % chance on Lonzo finding his health and being the great player he is than those picks amounting to a great player.

Like I said, I would push for some high end lottery protections. I mean, I'd push for as much protections as possible, but I'd settle for top 3 if the Bulls cared that much. I'm absolutely certain the Wolves will be a contender next year. Less certain for the Nets due to their obvious combustibility of personalities (but even then isnt that pick the least favorable out of the Philly/Nets pick, so it will certainly not be lottery).
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
He's still playing basketball games and is only 24 (or 25 or going on 25 soon, idk). He hasnt torn his ACL or achilles. He isnt on the Jonathan Isaac level (maybe a guy Jazz should also try to go after) of not playing due to consistent injuries.

Is it worrying? Sure.

Is he still incredibly valuable and worth the risk? Abso****inglutely.
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Who will play more the next two years... Mike or Lonzo?

Ball was missing 25+ games per year before this. Its really worrying. He's one setback away from being right with Isaac (who is likely viewed as a negative contract until he shows he can play).

He is worth some risk but I wouldn't go much past Mike plus a light asset right now. If they aren't selling at that price I understand.
 
Y'all do realize Mike Conley is a negative asset currently and he is not going to be able to net an expiring swap at this point, right?
 
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