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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

Handlogten's Heros said:
JC gets 27 minutes a night and Sexton gets 30-32 minutes a night... they will share the floor for 10-ish minutes a night. I don't care that it will make us worse obviously... I just care that the other 3 players on the floor won't see the ball and ball hogginess spreads bad habits.
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I'm just assuming Hardy is going to be pushing habits more than winning. So guys who guard, guys who pass, guys who play team basketball will get rewarded. Yes, I'm sure some level of veteran bias will happen, but I think it wont be huge.

And I'm not saying Sexton/Clarkson will become Joe Ingles, but hopefully they are passing more than they have in the past.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
We are headed for a Ty Corbin season. We will see if Hardy can avoid the temptation to rely on the vets... but coaches generally try to win games. Thibs in NY is a great example. Knicks fans would love to see IQ/Toppin more, but as long as they have Rose, Randle, Fournier... guess what... those other dudes gonna take a back seat. Get ready for too much time for Raja Bell and Richard Jefferson.

Hardy might be willing to take a bigger development approach... but I won't be surprised if we showcase the vets... it turns into a few extra wins... then all of a sudden we are gunning for the play-in Kings style. Good news is the schedule is tough to start the season so we may be in a big enough hole to start that we can pull the plug with the vets early.

@Saint Cy of JFC mentioned the team will be decent offensively... and I agree... those types of teams (like the Kings had) tend to win a couple extra games when other teams aren't shooting straight.
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I think we will be so bad defensively that we won't be close to making the play-in. Unfortunately, the vets are probably going to win us just enough games to screw up our chances of getting a top 5 pick. I think we can kiss the dream of getting Wembanyama goodbye.
 
Jingled said:
I think we will be so bad defensively that we won't be close to making the play-in. Unfortunately, the vets are probably going to win us just enough games to screw up our chances of getting a top 5 pick. I think we can kiss the dream of getting Wembanyama goodbye.
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I don’t think we can either but will be close enough that you don’t complete shut **** down like OKC does.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I'm just assuming Hardy is going to be pushing habits more than winning. So guys who guard, guys who pass, guys who play team basketball will get rewarded. Yes, I'm sure some level of veteran bias will happen, but I think it wont be huge.

And I'm not saying Sexton/Clarkson will become Joe Ingles, but hopefully they are passing more than they have in the past.
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I’m sure the vets will love seeing more bench because the first year coach doesn’t like that they shoot too much or don’t hustle back on defense.

I just don’t think JC has it in him to toggle between score and pass… I think that is when he struggles with turnovers and missed shots because he’s not as decisive.
 
TheStormofWar said:
Due seriousness, how long before Ainge starts chasing players with a bat during practice?

View: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1573762854683119617?s=20&t=Ia8DTKhYUM3VYtod4uIZXg
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SA/OKC/Houston are definitely going to put tank is. Our saving grace may be if the Magic take a leap forward and if Indiana keeps Turner and ends up being solid.

There is usually a team that has a big injury and joins the tank race unexpectedly… warriors and blazers last couple years.

We will see… so far it looks like a half *** tank.
 
How many lockedon pods will we get where Locke gets super mad that fans don’t want to win a few extra games and that we should be ashamed of ourselves. I will say at least 10 given our current roster.
 
Ben10 said:
The other team that’s having a bad shooting night. What we have is good enough offensively to win games if the other team is off a little.
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Guys like Agbaji, THT and NAW, plus Vanderbilt and Olynyk might not actually be trash defensively. I think we've been assuming the Jazz will be a bottom-5 defense, but that's not a given. That lineup I just listed won't be able to score though.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Who do you think is winning us all these games?
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I mean Mike effing Conley is a winning player. The rest of the offensive guys aren’t necessarily like “winners” but there are plenty of scorers and shooters that can pop and you win a game you shouldn’t. JC, Beasley, KO, Sexton are all guys capable of explosive scoring nights that win you games.

To have an effective tank OKC has had to shut down SGA but also just solid nba types like Kenny Hustle, Mike Muscala, and sign guys in the g league and play them 30+ minutes. The roster is too deep to do that.

There are still enough ****** teams that you will win some on talent… others when a good team comes into town on a back to back and you get em… or you just have an exceptional shooting night. Also sometimes teams just miss shots and our baseline of solid/good offense will win this nights.

Currently this is like a 30 win team… depending on luck or injuries may win a few more or a few less. We should offload some more vets if possible to make it more like a 25 win team. I really think we are currently close to on par with Sacramento.
 
Jingled said:
Not only is it not a tanking roster, but it's also going to take developmental minutes away from the young guys. Tony also said that the Jazz have high hopes for Gay this season because he is fully healthy and they're hoping he can bounce back. So, we're going to have 4 guys over 30 that aren't in the long-term plans in Conley, Clarkson, Gay and Olynyk all in the rotation and likely playing major minutes.
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This is such coward ****ing garbage.
 
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