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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

KqWIN said:
Unfortunately I think you're right. In a perfect world where we could make decisions freely, I still prefer to keep building around Don+Rudy and trying to win while we can. But I will admit that the further we're removed from the "appease Don" plan the better, and that might have involve a trade before more damage is done. It's too bad that Don and Friends is going to be the path forward.
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Our 2024 starting lineup will be

Donovan
Frankie Smokes
Zhaire Wade
John Collins
Kyle Kuzma

Bench:
Forrest
Anyone that played at Louisville
Paschall

Name changed to the Utah Spidazz
 
If JB gets traded, it would be a selling low scenario. I'd prefer he stays, and may be needed if we trade Mike. At a minimum, start him and boost trade value.
 
TheGoldStandard said:
If JB gets traded, it would be a selling low scenario. I'd prefer he stays, and may be needed if we trade Mike. At a minimum, start him and boost trade value.
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I hate to burst anyone's bubble but the player drafted just ahead of him, the Utah State center, was given a two way contract and sent to the GLeague for the season by the mighty Kings.
 
homeytennis said:
I hate to burst anyone's bubble but the player drafted just ahead of him, the Utah State center, was given a two way contract and sent to the GLeague for the season by the mighty Kings.
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And your point being? Late picks are hit or miss, Butler dropped due to potential health issues, which seems to be managed.

Maybe they can't get a lot for him, but it is still bad business to sell low.
 
TheGoldStandard said:
If JB gets traded, it would be a selling low scenario. I'd prefer he stays, and may be needed if we trade Mike. At a minimum, start him and boost trade value.
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I think ideally JB murders it in summer league and we realize instead of throwing cold water on him maybe we should move Mike/Jordan to let the kid play... or he increases his value by averaging like 30 a game there.
 
NUMBERICA said:
This has crossed my mind. It is the best explanation for how the org went from over the moon to suddenly that he doesn’t fit what the team does.

… howww does that happen?
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Man, y'all come up with any sort of reason to hate on Donovan.

Butler didn't play because Don, Conley and Clarkson were better and the last thing we needed was another undersized suspect defender out there.

Donovan loves his boy Paschall, but he didn't play hardly at all. Donovan had zero pull on his playing time.

Y'all are looking for scapegoats. It starts with Quin.
 
TheGoldStandard said:
And your point being? Late picks are hit or miss, Butler dropped due to potential health issues, which seems to be managed.

Maybe they can't get a lot for him, but it is still bad business to sell low.
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I'd be furious if they just released him or traded him for a second. They stuck with Miye, Brantley, and Ellijah for 2-4 years but JB only gets 1.

Just because a player doesn't project to get playing time doesn't mean we need to get rid of him in some form or fashion. (not yelling at you... more the Jones idea of he won't play here) You keep the player because injuries happen. If he is buried on the bench and pissed about it so what. We have released players that fell out of the rotation and then later had injuries that they could help with.

I just think they managed JB poorly. Once he adjusts to the three point line he's going to be really valuable. The defense wasn't awful it was just a lot of rookie mistakes... fouling and being out of place at times... he gets a lot of steals as well as blocks and rebounds for a guard. The rookie mistakes get ironed out with experience... just wild Quin couldn't "downgrade" from Forrest to JB for a few minutes a night to invest in that player when GS, Memphis, Denver, etc. all seem to find time for those guys.
 
LoPo said:
Butler didn't play because Don, Conley and Clarkson were better and the last thing we needed was another undersized suspect defender out there.
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What? 6-3 for a pg is good length. He also is one of the better defenders on the team in man on man. He’s nothing close to a suspect defender, and he should’ve played ahead of Forrest. Look, Forrest does some things well, but when one of your weaknesses is shooting, and he’s probably… arguably the worst shooting pg in the nba. Butler should’ve got minutes over Forrest.
 
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