Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Handlogten's Heros]

Our defense was significantly worse too. I just can’t fathom how having perimeter defenders who can switch is going to be worse than 4 guys who aren’t great at defending and Rudy. Especially in the playoffs where weaknesses get exposed and magnified.

You misunderstood what I said... their defense in the playoffs was worse than ours... so we could actually be worse. They have a bunch of switchy good perimeter defenders.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If we brought back Whiteside and Dok develops at all, we are covered in the stereotypical rim protecting center category.

Then we need an "okay small ball center" and a "good small ball center". If we are stuck with him and his contract, Rudy Gay could be our "okay small ball center". Maybe we bring back Paschall for minimum too.

Really, all we are looking for is one "good small ball center option".



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I admire how glass half full you are looking at that half empty glass of hotdog water

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

When Rudy goes to a team of great defenders it's going to shock the league how good a defensive he can lead.

Barnes/Siakim/Gobert/FVV/Yuta will be ****ing dogs.

 

[LoPo]

I’d be cool with this I think. Is there anyway to use bogie and a 1st possibly aqcuired through the Gobert trade to get Collins? What is Bogies value?


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I don't think his value is that good. I think Atlanta would take Bojan for Capella. Could we.....

Atlanta gets Bojan
Charlotte gets Capela
Utah gets PJ Washington and Plumlee

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[Handlogten's Heros]

If we brought back Whiteside and Dok develops at all, we are covered in the stereotypical rim protecting center category.

Then we need an "okay small ball center" and a "good small ball center". If we are stuck with him and his contract, Rudy Gay could be our "okay small ball center". Maybe we bring back Paschall for minimum too.

Really, all we are looking for is one "good small ball center option".



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Names and how do we get them? Good small ball centers are almost as rare as the mythical two way wings that are able to create a little.

The rest is a little ummm ambitious. Whiteside is out... he basically said so. Udoka can't stay healthy even as a bench warmer... ain't relying on him.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Donovan Mitchell: Great scorer, but can't get it done when it matters and is a ****** leader.

He needs to play with a Lebron/Luka type to ever win at the highest level. He's a scoring Robin to a Batman leader.

 

[Cptgrnlngs22]

If we brought back Whiteside and Dok develops at all, we are covered in the stereotypical rim protecting center category.

Then we need an "okay small ball center" and a "good small ball center". If we are stuck with him and his contract, Rudy Gay could be our "okay small ball center". Maybe we bring back Paschall for minimum too.

Really, all we are looking for is one "good small ball center option".



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Wendell carter jr. Doubt we can nab him though. I like that guy.


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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yeah, teams like Boston/Miami have y'all expectations for how good small ball defensive can be way out of line.

Look at Charlotte. A team with tons of long and switchy defenders. Complete *** defensively. If you want to play switch defensively, you cant have any weak links. You can't have any players who arent willing to be dogs. You also have to have a starter quality big to let your team survive the regular season where drop coverage reigns supreme.

If you have (Prima)Donovan Mitchell you cant play that style with any kind of playoff success because the dude isnt that guy.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Donovan Mitchell: Great scorer, but can't get it done when it matters and is a ****** leader.

He needs to play with a Lebron/Luka type to ever win at the highest level. He's a scoring Robin to a Batman leader.

I don’t think you remember the last few years of playoffs at all Mitchell has carried us offensively and when it matters.

 

[LoPo]

Names and how do we get them? Good small ball centers are almost as rare as the mythical two way wings that are able to create a little.

The rest is a little ummm ambitious. Whiteside is out... he basically said so. Udoka can't stay healthy even as a bench warmer... ain't relying on him.

Boston has 3 of them with Grant, Theis and Horford. Looney isn't anything special, but he plays the role well. Powell gave good minutes to Dallas. Etc.

Guys are out there and need to be trusted. We should have played Paschall and Gay more. Those guys might have been good options.

If Whiteside is gone, so be it. I'm fine with that.

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[Elizah Huge]

You misunderstood what I said... their defense in the playoffs was worse than ours... so we could actually be worse. They have a bunch of switchy good perimeter defenders.

They must have been extremely bad then not sure how you can get much worse than that what we did. Did you watch the series at all? What happened?

 

[jom2003]

At this point I’d gather as many draft picks as we could and let Ainge do his thing. Historically speaking the best way to get yourself some solid 3D wings is through the draft. OG is nice but he's hurt all the time and will cost you a steep price

This ain't DL in charge any more. It's up to the guy who basically drafted this entire Celtics team currently in the run for a chip. I trust our draft luck a lot more now.