Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Elizah Huge]

We send Gobert away. What's the chance this team succeeds enough to keep him?

It all depends on what we get back. I truly do believe that Collins/Capela + Huerter or Hunter coupled with moving Conley and/or Bogey gives this team a higher chance to succeed in the playoffs.

 

[KqWIN]

To better describe my feelings on acquiring a player like Collins at this juncture of the build is like acquiring Al Jefferson or maybe Devin Harris. I just don’t give a **** and this team would’ve likely had higher highs in the last ten years had they just decided to do the rational thing and cash out their assets and bottom out for a couple of years. The most torturous part of the Corbin years was knowing that the inevitable was being dragged out and the apex of the next build were being compromised in the process.

I like Collins a lot as an asset. I think there's a high chance Collins improves his value, small chance his value goes down, and also a small chance he actually gets better and turns into a really good player. His value is relatively low at the moment so it's a good time to go and get him. He's been injured and in the rumors for so long. I don't have a ton of hope in him truly being an impact player, but if we traded for him this summer I bet his value would be better 2 years from now or whenever we would want to trade him. He's a great candidate to rebuild his value because he'll put up really pretty numbers. I think he's pretty similar to Sabonis. Did Sabonis really help IND win? Kind of, but not really....but he did give them Haliburton. I don't think the only way to rebuild is to floor it all for picks and try as hard as possible to stink. You can get a lot of value from these second draft type of players.

 

[stitches]

It all depends on what we get back. I truly do believe that Collins/Capela + Huerter or Hunter coupled with moving Conley and/or Bogey gives this team a higher chance to succeed in the playoffs.

I just fundamentally disagree with your evaluations...

And that's not to mention we don't even know what type of success will be enough. Hell we might go the finals and he IMO very likely still leaves. I really just don't see a path. He was asked directly to give even the midlest committment to this team and he refused to do it just a month ago. This is with him having 3 more years under contract. Hayward was more committed with 20 days on his contract left, before he left.

 

[nateboz]

The wildest thing of all is all of the Rudy lovers are the ones who are complaining we can’t have a good conversation. It’s Trump level self awareness type of ****.

You guys constantly make excuses for him and NOTHING is ever his fault.

Remember peace in the middle east and cheap everything? Yeah, Trump sucks so bad.

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[Handlogten's Heros]

Hunter reminds me of Taurean Prince... everyone looks at his physical profile and numbers and assumes he can morph into Kawhi... but he's really just Taurean Prince and really is very average.

 

[YoungJefe]

You literally asked me why we’d win more games than the Hawks did this year (41)?

So in your brain that translated to we are a 35 win team

 

[Hearsky]

I blame Don all the time. Late game performances. Piss poor defense. Etc. I own it.

I also realize that Don was our best and only chance to go far in the playoffs because Rudy just doesn't scare anybody. On either end.

Lol blaming Don's usage on Rudy's inability to create offense. Thanks for proving my point.

You might be the biggest ****ing clown the Internet has ever seen. Not an easy accomplishment.


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[YoungJefe]

Hunter reminds me of Taurean Prince... everyone looks at his physical profile and numbers and assumes he can morph into Kawhi... but he's really just Taurean Prince and really is very average.

Hunter was balling in the playoffs

 

[Cptgrnlngs22]

I think the Jazz and Hawks know what they want and don't want. If I were to guess, Utah is trying to find a home for Capela. Looking for a 3rd team.

I don’t know man… Ainge tried to trade smart and a first round pick for a Capela when he was in Boston but it never went through. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Capella be in a jazz uniform.


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[jom2003]

They would probably take DeAngelo Russell instead of Conley.

Yeah, Russell or Simmons. But Minny and Brooklyn probably would ask a lot for these guys. More than what the Wizards could afford.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So in your brain that translated to we are a 35 win team

You didn't say it but I mean that is certainly in the realm of possibility if whoever we get isn't as healthy as Rudy has been over the years. We lost Joe who was one of our players that impacted wins quite a bit. Mike is likely to slip a little... Bogey too... I assume if we trade them in its for something that is younger but likely a little worse.

If we did the Atlanta trade and had averageish health I'd say we are a .500 team... given our late game spaziness we could easily slide to 35 wins. It isn't crazy... Rudy is among the biggest win share guys in the league.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, Russell or Simmons. But Minny and Brooklyn probably would ask a lot for these guys. More than what the Wizards could afford.

I think Minny is dying to move Russell.