Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Hekate]

I don't know the cap situation or how Bucks would go around the tax or their pick situations but;

Conley for Lopez, Hill and 1st works

Bucks then use their taxpayer MLE on Claxton fill the void at center. Claxton gives them better chance to play more at the level. They also weren't terrible when Lopez was injured.

Jazz do it because Lopez can shoot and defend and they get a pick.

Jazz can then trade Gobert for non-centers.

 

[Avery]

I don't think our trade market is going to be active as many people would like it to be unless we are unloading expiring for expiring - I think this team wants to shed salary and have room to chase free agents of their own choosing, but can't realistically do so until next year when guys like Bogey, Hern and potentially Gay/Jordan opt out.

This team is going to look completely different in two years, but it's going to be a long two years of trying to compete knowing that you're not shopping for a lot of groceries.

 

[LoPo]

3 team scenario where Jackson goes to the lakers... Jazz get THT and Kennard... Mike goes to the Clips... seconds can go... ummm somewhere?

Seems like the Lakers need Conley more than the Clippers, but that could possibly work. But the Lakers do seem to value THT.....

We could trade Conley to...

- Miami for Duncan Robinson and multiple 1sts.....
- Knicks straight up for Julius Randle and hope Hardy can use him correctly
- Philly with Rudy Gay, Juancho and NAW for Tobias and Thybulle
- Orlando for Terrence Ross
- NOLA for Nance, Temple, Hernangomez and a young player

 

[KqWIN]

I could see Conley for Rozier, they seem to have concern about their upcoming cap situation with Bridges. I'd be interesting in trying to add to that deal and get PJ Washington.

 

[LoPo]

The following trade is almost exactly the same money....

Conley and Rudy Gay
for
Kevin Love

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Possibly, but I think the Clippers probably feel really good about their PG situation with Wall and RJ. RJ was garbage last season, but he's been a huge playoff performer for them and is PG's best friend. It just doesn't seem to me, maybe if Wall gets hurt mid season or something. They have some contracts they'd likely want to get off of, but I don't think they're a Conley buyer. I would say that WAS, even with Morris, is more of a buyer.

I don't think there are any good options. Maybe you can shoot for Brogdon? Memphis potentially? I think our best shot is MIN, who really seems down on Russell and wants to win now.

I think we end up rolling with Mike at this point... which is fine. If we were desperate maybe Minny does Conley/Gay/Naw for Russell but I hate the fit so much. I think it would help us clear cap space for next year which is... whatevs.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I could see Conley for Rozier, they seem to have concern about their upcoming cap situation with Bridges. I'd be interesting in trying to add to that deal and get PJ Washington.

The additions are the problem. I think they would have some interest but not sure they'd even do a straight swap of Mike for Terry. Finding an asset to add to get to Washington is real iffy.

 

[gomretat]

I think we end up rolling with Mike at this point... which is fine. If we were desperate maybe Minny does Conley/Gay/Naw for Russell but I hate the fit so much. I think it would help us clear cap space for next year which is... whatevs.

He and Donny together is a problem but Conley has plenty left in the tank so I wont feel bad about finding a place for him.

 

[KqWIN]

I think we end up rolling with Mike at this point... which is fine. If we were desperate maybe Minny does Conley/Gay/Naw for Russell but I hate the fit so much. I think it would help us clear cap space for next year which is... whatevs.

I don't feel great about it. I think there's a good chance Mike Conley has a Rudy situation where father time hits him. When he first got to the Jazz, I don't think it was the huge adjustment that caused him to struggle as much as it was his health. If his body isn't right, which shouldn't surprise anyone at 35, he could fall off a cliff. We can always wait until he has value as an expiring contract, but that requires to run it back this year to some extent and that is something I personally cannot bear.

I'd be happy to do the Russell trade. He might not be a great fit, but neither is Conley for the same reasons. Russell can be a chucker, but he is also a terrific and willing passer and has made strides on the defensive end.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don't feel great about it. I think there's a good chance Mike Conley has a Rudy situation where father time hits him. When he first got to the Jazz, I don't think it was the huge adjustment that caused him to struggle as much as it was his health. If his body isn't right, which shouldn't surprise anyone at 35, he could fall off a cliff. We can always wait until he has value as an expiring contract, but that requires to run it back this year to some extent and that is something I personally cannot bear.

I'd be happy to do the Russell trade. He might not be a great fit, but neither is Conley for the same reasons. Russell can be a chucker, but he is also a terrific and willing passer and has made strides on the defensive end.

I'm worried on Mike too... this is the age where those guys fall off a cliff?

I think to have any meaningful change (outside of moving Don or Rudy) you have to move Mike or JC... If Mike's value is garbage and JC has some decent value to switch the roster up a bit.... then I just roll with Mike. He may hold it together for a little while longer.

 

[KqWIN]

I'm worried on Mike too... this is the age where those guys fall off a cliff?

I think to have any meaningful change (outside of moving Don or Rudy) you have to move Mike or JC... If Mike's value is garbage and JC has some decent value to switch the roster up a bit.... then I just roll with Mike. He may hold it together for a little while longer.

IMO, trading Mike is a good idea for any direction so you've got to find a way to do it. If you want to tank, trade Mike. If you want to win now, trade Mike. If you want to retool with more youngish players, trade Mike. I don't think there's a place for him on this roster, no matter what the rest of the team looks like. It doesn't look like there are good options, but I hope Ainge can weasel his way into a deal.

I would bet on Mike being decent during the RS, so maybe he can remove the stink of his playoff performance, but even last year it was very clear that the only way he could get separation was with a big, illegal screen from Rudy. He had no juice to beat guys or create on his own. In the playoffs he'll get crushed on both ends again. Might as well move him for Russell if you can.

 

[Pastramiking]

Washington just traded the package to Denver of KCP + Ish Smith to Denver. That was the package I was hoping the Jazz would get for Conley. A defensive wing + a veteran back-up PG.